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Its a differant story when a politician kills someone then .

Labour peer Lord Nazir Ahmed hit and killed a driver on Christmas Day in a horrific motorway pile-up.

Baron Ahmed, 49, was quizzed by police after the smash, which took place as he was driving his wife and elderly mother.

Last night the peer - who recently helped free teddy row teacher Gillian Gibbons from a jail in Sudan - recalled the "horrendous" smash.

He said: "I saw a red Audi facing the wrong way. There was nothing I could do about it."


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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories ... -20266093/

This surely is DWDC as a minimum? However unfortunate, he should have been observing sufficiently far ahead to be able to deal with such an eventuality.

I believe the driver of the red Audi had walked to the hard shoulder, then as Lord Ahmed approached the scene, decided to run back to his vehicle, and "ran onto" the bonnet of the car.
TV report I saw, gave no indication of excess speed, and gave the impression that in trying to avoid the vehicle in the lane ahead, Lord Ahmed did not see the driver run into his path.
The dead man would appear to have been the agent of his own misfortune in deciding to return to is vehicle.

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If you are not a Labour peer....

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/latest/Boy- ... 3627472.jp
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The nine-year-old has a broken right leg and ankle, a broken nose and a fractured skull.
The driver of the blue Peugeot 106 which hit him, a 20-year-old man from Gosport, has been reported for summons on suspicion of driving without due care and attention.
The incident happened at 5.45pm Thursday, when the boy, who is believed to be local, ran across the pavement and into South Street, Gosport, near the pedestrian crossing at the junction with Haslar Road.
An ambulance and rapid response vehicle were called to the scene and arrived within five minutes.
Paramedics treated the boy by the side of the road before he was sped off to Queen Alexandra Hospital.
He has since been transferred to the paediatric intensive care unit at Southampton General Hospital.
His injuries are believed to be very serious but not life-threatening and police yesterday said his condition was stable.
Officers are appealing for any witnesses, or anyone who saw the boy prior to the incident, to come forward.
They are asked to contact PC Paul Barrett at Cosham Roads Policing Unit on 0845 045 45 45.

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The father of a seven-year-old girl who died after being involved in an accident while riding a quad bike on a public road may face charges, police said.

Officers said they were examining the "culpability" of "all parties" involved in the death of Elizabeth Cooke on Boxing Day.

The youngster and her 10-year-old brother Jack were riding petrol-engined quad bikes behind their father Gary's Range Rover near the family home in Blackmore, Essex when the accident happened.

Elizabeth, who had been given the quad bike for Christmas, was initially taken home and died in hospital later after suffering "internal" injuries.
Police said Elizabeth's quad bike was in collision with a Range Rover driven by a 28-year-old woman from Brentwood, Essex, shortly after 6pm.

A spokeswoman said officers were continuing to investigate the accident and added: "We are making further inquiries and examining the culpability of all involved parties."

Sources said the investigation could take months.

The 28-year-old woman, who has not been named, was initially arrested on suspicion of causing death by careless driving while unfit through drink or drugs.

Police today said she would not be charged with that offence.

But officers said the woman could be charged with careless driving.

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Why in Gods name??

How much is there to investigate???

Talk about jobs for the boys. :roll:

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Why in Gods name??

How much is there to investigate???

Talk about jobs for the boys. :roll:

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Oh in fairness to all involved - we have to investigate each statement. A little girl died and we must establish how .. even though it seems obvious. :popcorn:

On the one hand we had very irresponsible parenting - and I accept the Mad Cat's defence of "pester power" as I am also a father. But like them.. I use the words NO WAY

:shock:

On the other hand - we had a collision and we need to establish how come.

The time willl be taken with witness statements and a test to check the how.


We need to be sure of all facts before anyone is charged with anything. :popcorn:

I would hate to charge any party and find they evade justice because of a fail to prove the case :popcorn:


My condolences to all concerned.. but I would not have been exposing my own kids to such danger. Let me put it that way :popcorn:

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Police have made an arrest per BBC news.


The girl's father has been arrested and faces prosecution over this incident.

I think a right decision. I feel very sympathetic towards the poor woman who was wrongly accused of drink driving and carelessness. Had she been careless - then I am sure she would have been charged with this already.

The children were on the road illegally. It was dark. It was an unsuitable road as it was dark, rural, unlit and "known to be busy". Any responsible person would not have allowed it .. not matter if subjected to "excited pester". A good many of us have kids. We know how bad the "pester" can be. But mature parents/adults should be able to use the NO word :popcorn: :? :?

He allowed it and I am sure like the McCann /Tapas 9 group and countless before them and no doubt after them.. they will be punishing themselves more than a court will anyway.


But parenthood requires common sense and it's about time some learned it - even if it has to be the harsh and tragic way.

I would say that to make that child's life worthwhile - folk do not condemn her father (or even the Tapas 9 idiots) - but learn from his/their mistakes as it can be a matter of "there but for the grace of God go I" :popcorn: in many cases.


It does not mean leniency by the way.. but a court will take some account of genuine remorse and suffering in very personal cases when balancing those scales of justice.

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