Safe Speed Forums

You are right, for once. Excess speed can kill - however if speed is the only dimension to your road safety knowledge you are ignoring the other 95% of accidents that aren't caused by speed. If this is the actual extent of your accident avoidance knowledge you are a hazard to us all on the road, please take the bus in future.

Face facts, focusing the majority on enforcement of arbitrarily set speed limits is not going to save lives, as exceeding such a limit does not constitute excessive speed. Breaking the speed limit yes, excessive speed no.

Please, shut up. Just received my 1st NIP in 10 years of driving for 48 in a 40. Cumbria scamera van on the last weekend of the Easter holidays coming back from the lakes. Must've got hundreds and as I had wife and kids in car, wasn't driving dangerously in the slightest. Was paying full attention to the road and other hazards. Yet, I get lumped with this. I was keeping pace with the traffic and the site must've been just inside the 40 zone, or on the way out of it. I bet the tw@ who tailgated me on the dual carriageway just before it when there was a line of traffic overtaking a caravan at a legal speed didn't get done though. Injustice.

I totally disagree with any form of speed camera or trap that results in a "strict liability" offence, whereby the owner of the vehicle commits a criminal offence by exercising a fundamental human right to silence. e.g. not telling the police who did it.

If I went out and killed "the sensible majority" by driving along the pavment then walked in to a police station with the body under my arm, I would have the right to silence.

This "ABSOLUTLY" proves that ALL speeding offences using the "strict liability" offence are simply cash making mechanisms for a totally PC government that is happy to let thousands of immigrants out of jail without considering deportation. Especially the one wanted for the Bradford killing, who's reason for coming to the UK in the first place was because he feared for his life back in Somalia but after killing the WPC promptly ran back there.

It's "the sensible majority" that keeps voting for governments like we have (not that any of the others are much better!!)

Not to mention the “OK I’ll do the speed limit regardless of how much ice is on the road and children are playing, sliding around on it along with me in my 1.5ton vehicle” vs “I’m on a clear dual carriage way I can see for miles and these no pavements, so I’ll do what speed I see fit” argument.

Sorry must stop ranting

Finally, that vast majority of people speed so should he not be called "the sensible minority"

How about the stu... Oh, no, forget it.

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Paul Smith
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I've nicknamed him "Tim" - short for "The Imbecile Minority". So much catchier!

Yes the sensible minority is probably much nearer the truth in this country of chavs, morons and law breakers!!

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Why not put on speed limiters we have the technology only idiots break the speed limit

How does that work if (at minimum) many of the (real) sensible majority are law breakers?

But tsm, your grammar and demeanour mark you out as a moron, by your own admission you're a law-breaker:

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As for whether you're a chav, it's hard to judge on a forum.

Out of curiosity
a) what car DO you drive?
b) how many miles p.a. do you drive as a total
c) what do you regard as the point at which a car has too much power?
I'm not interested in the extremes here, just the point at which you would say that a typical hatch for your typical family has more than a reasonable amount of power/torque.

Stackmonkey, everyone knows that 50bhp is enough

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

As in the song -"Tim, nice but .........................."??

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

Yeah, I'll go along with that - it's not as if I have a big lawn.

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Only when ideology, prejudice and dogma are set aside does the truth emerge - Kepler

LMAO! Now THAT I do know about... You want a New Holland TCE55 sir, with no c's.

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

i drive a hyundai getz 1000cc good MPh reliable and it caries (like the vast majority of cars ) ust the driver most of the time,
Mainly around the town I live in and up to 50 miles radius for work including motorways.
The car is 3 years old and has 52000 o the mileometer.

My wife has a megan 1600cc this is too powerful capable of 120 mph and I feel any car over 1600cc is wasteful,
Sometimes the extra rom in the megan is useful

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Why not put on speed limiters we have the technology only idiots break the speed limit

Do you frequent garden centres?



That's just crazy. It must eat front tyres. I'm surprised you haven't divorced her.

Assuming you mean a Megane - I've got a 2 litre Clio, and can't help thinking it could do with a bit more oomph

Fill that Megane with people, and fill the boot to the brim and all of a sudden you will find that 1600cc isn't developing enough BHP to pull the skin off a rice pudding.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

No it hasn't - five adults and their luggage in the boot of a "migraine" (which probably doesn't fit in the first place) and it is underpowered. The big clue is when you have to change down just to get up hills on motorways without stalling...

But obviously the needs of each person for power in a car varies with their person requirements; that is why they have a range of engine sizes in the first place. Somebody who pootles to the shops and back by themselves a few times a week can probably get by with something in the range of 1L. Somebody that regularly does 300+ miles per day, or has 3 teenage children and goes camping a lot in hilly areas probably should have a 2L plus car. If you have two kids that have a hobby such as horse riding where you need to take the horses to events in a trailer, then a 3L might not be enough.

And this site is about road safety and not speeding, 120mph not enough???
It IS plenty for those of us that chose to drive within the limit and not set off from roundabouts like we are in a F1 race.

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Why not put on speed limiters we have the technology only idiots break the speed limit

There's none so blind as those who will not see

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Only when ideology, prejudice and dogma are set aside does the truth emerge - Kepler

hmm, the QE2 has around 140000hp. How fast do you think it goes? Could it be that all that power might just be useful for something other than top speed?