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I recently attended a funeral and was shocked how other road users treated our procession.
Cutting in after the hearse, sounding horns, flashing of lights etc and the Policeman not removing his hat were all things that stood out on the way to the crematorium.
My Dad is from Holland and over there all the cars in the procession travel with their lights on to let people know they are together, we did this also but to no avail, people really do not give a shit about others.
I don't subscribe to road rage but I was more than prepared to administer a few severe kickings!
But can I just say thank you to the road works gang who all removed their helmets and to the Stobbart artic driver who stopped on the roundabout to allow us to travel in a group.

That's really sickening to hear.

I'm sorry to read that your friend/relative was shown all the final respects of a convict.

What a sorry state this country is....

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It really annoys me, it happened to us when my nan died
some W$&*%R cut in after her hearse.

what has happed to this country

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last one of these things i went to they had little white magnetic pyramids with black crosses on that they stuck on the bonnets of the accompanying cars.

seemed effective, if slightly comical.

Sadly it is just an example of how some drivers think they live on an island.

I can see your point, however, playing devils advocate a comment I've heard and can sort of see is why should funeral processions crawl along at 10-15mph, if a driver did that they could be pulled for holding up/obstructing traffic.

This comment was made by the funeral director during a chat with after the funeral of my father's cousin. His view was that the roads are a dangerous enough place without adding to the mix - he was adamant about 'walking out' the first 100 yards with his pacestick (was ex Coldstream Guards) but after that he expected his drivers to drive at a steady pace whilst being, as he put it 'sensible'.

Also should the artic driver be stopping on a roundabout to hold up traffic ??

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Also should the artic driver be stopping on a roundabout to hold up traffic ??

Stobbart's drivers are a law unto themselves.

Yes but funeral processions these days don't have the guy in black walking in front all the way there and we were travelling just under the limit which as far as I can tell is far from illegal. Diana dies and London shuts down but my friend was more important than Diana to me.
We were holding up the traffic no more than your average HGV and even if we were then I think people could just for once pull their selfish heads out their arse and live with it for five minutes.
But how much of an insensitive, inattentive & ignorant f**k do you have to be to cut in behind a hearse .
Ask yourself how many times you stumble across a procession anyway.
I live on a route to a crematorium and have met maybe two in five years.
Of course I realise society is on the slide (ironic really with our love of P.C.)
But I am just annoyed that something that is incredibly important to a lot of people on a painful day is regarded by some as a pain in the arse traffic hold up!
The artic? was it safe? I reckon but then I have stopped on roundabouts to allow an emergency vehicle to proceed I assessed it safe enough and made then decision so did he but my point about him was not about the manoeuvre but the fact he thought it respectful.

From what i've heard ,he would be expected to .

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Whoah! Steady on! It was a dig at Stobbart's drivers, not the funeral.

I've lost count of the number of times they've blown me away in my truck on the A66, when I've been doing more than the limit!

Sorry - Oscar - no dig meant - couldn't figure out a smiley to say so due to content ,was commenting on hearsay about firm --certain drivers object to "internal culture "

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And I was replying to paulw whilst you replied!

PaulW around my way we have a crematorium on one of the main roads into town and the funeral processions do drive at about 10-15 mph - it creates absolute havoc in rush hour. Jumping past a funeral procession driving sensibly within the limit is nuts !!

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Gordon Brown saying I got the country into it's current economic mess so I'll get us out of it is the same as Bomber Harris nipping over to Dresden and offering to repair a few windows.

Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.

http://www.wildcrafts.co.uk

Absolute havoc?
How many processions take place during any rush hour?
I've never known one take place until at least gone 10am and I doubt you will see one after four and anyway the procession only exists in the one direction, i.e. to the crematorium or grave yard.
And that aside what does it matter even if they do hold you up for five, ten or even fifteen minutes? Just pull over and calm down and maybe reflect on the fact that it's not you or a loved one in that box.
When all is said and done I seriously doubt your life is so filled with immediately important things to do that you find it necessary to moan about a funeral procession holding you up.
How much time do you spend on this website alone? I'm sure you can sacrifice a few minutes.
Whatever next? “Jesus f*****g Christ man! Another fatal accident, bloody hell, don't they realise I'm missing Eastenders"?
Show some respect!

To bloody right.
Every thing that Paul has written is spot on there are so many selfish w**kers driving out there
Have some respect. Good on the HGV driver.

PaulW: "How many processions take place during any rush hour?" Quite a few, because you haven't seen one doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Don't get me wrong I don't drive past that particular crematorium, but I used to cycle past it on the way to work and saw on a regular basis people getting frustrated and doing stupid things like overtaking on the crest of the bridge and on a blind corner. Dumb drivers being impatient behind what is (when you take the emotion out if it) basically slow moving traffic.

As for your comment: "Whatever next? “Jesus f*****g Christ man! Another fatal accident, bloody hell, don't they realise I'm missing Eastenders"?
Show some respect!"

This forum is for debate, sometimes of emotive, unpalatable or different views NOT personal attacks, I spent three years working with bodies and parts of and ALL have been treated with the appropriate respect.

In future I suggest that you read my posts properly !!

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Gordon Brown saying I got the country into it's current economic mess so I'll get us out of it is the same as Bomber Harris nipping over to Dresden and offering to repair a few windows.

Chaos, panic and disorder - my work here is done.

http://www.wildcrafts.co.uk

Rush hour or not rush hour I really couldn't care less.
If some halfwitt overtakes on a blind bend because they dislike waiting then that is not the processions fault is it?
The next time I'm stuck behind a tractor I'll kill someone overtaking blindly shall I? ( we could place the corpse in a bin wagon and save any hold up)
All I would like to see is people to show a little respect for something, just for once.
I did read your posts and, several times I just disagree.
I understand totally about the ethos of this forum.
Look I'm just really pissed off with how a certain few motorists treated us on the day and mean no personal attack.
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Sorry to hear that your relative was treated so poorly on their final journey. I have seen some utter ignorance around funeral processions and I have seen the sort of respect shown by the Stobart driver.

Personal respect is dying in this country and I, for one, mourn its passing. Allowing some dignity to a person whose life has ended seems too much trouble these days...

On the other hand, when my grandmother was buried, as we drove to the cemetary, we passed a 'crocodile' of schoolchildren. As we passed, their teacher made them stop, face the courtege and bow their heads - a nice touch that my grandmother would have appreciated. They were, however, from a private school...

Do unto others as you would be done by (sic.)

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I'm not a Stobart Driver, but I always try and show respect to someone on their last journey, and I have stopped traffic with my truck on a roundabout to allow the whole procession through in one go.
I definately like the idea of those little plastic pyramids as well.

I remember the day my Dad took his last journey in Manchester. From Wythenshawe to Moston Cemetary. Manchester was almost gridlocked by Black Taxicabs, my Dad was a Black Taxicab owner/driver and much respected.
We nearly couldn't get into the church for taxis parked outside, same for the cemetary.
And all along the route were Taxi's parked by the side of the road with the driver stood by their drivers door showing their respect, and some had fares onboard as well.
I would like the same respect shown on my last journey, so I show respect Now.

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None of that surprises me in the least, what a disgusting lack of respect. These people obviously couldn't give a toss about all the relatives, unbelievable.

Anybody who was sounding their horn, flashing lights, or cutting in, should have been arrested and charged with threatening behaviour, especially considering the circumstances.

But to most people, getting to wherever THEY'RE going is the most important thing in the world, and to hell with everybody else.

It makes me sick.