Safe Speed Forums

Road tolls through vehicle tracking was part of the Lib Dim manifesto at the last election, in case any one has forgotten already.

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Speed camera policy Kills

Not always on a rational basis I venture to suggest.
Anyhow, I haven't noticed the blood stains.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

I am aware of the unfortunate present views of the policitians on the subject matter.

The reason why I posted how I've voted in the past and my current political leanings is because I didn't want Scamera Man to get away with labelling me loony left wing and getting away with it.

He says I have no respect for authority. I refute that: I have every respect for everyone - until they start to thieve off of me, that is.

PaulF's reply to my mind is more of the frustration of a being fined at 5 mph above the speed limit - and yet probably he was perfectly safe at the time of the ping. Depends on what we actually see as to whether we decide to prosecute or not in lower margins above limit. Think that is the difference - and we find the little quiet chat usually gets the message across that 35 mph in an urban/residential is not such a good idea.

After a fourteen day period - some of these people were not aware of the speed error and all they are apparently learning from a fine for "low infringement of the the law" is resentment which then rebounds on us. Better to tell them at time of the offence, decide on tick-off, advice, or fine at the time, and we stand a much better chance of changing attitude if this is indeed the whole ethos of partnerships. By the way - we never set any traps near a speed limit change and we make sure our cars and the one camera van are very visible and legally parked at all times. But we do have stealths larking around as well. Seems to work here.

ANPR? No problem there - they are an extra tool - and we usually find the illegals cause most of the problems on the road anyway - afterall if they have so little respect for paying their dues - they have little respect for any other road user in any case. We tend to blitz this type.

Site, as you have correctly discerned cam op man, is not about driving at any old speed - it's about driving at the correct speed for all road traffic conditions - and a genuine concern that a single focus on one area of road safety is not such a good idea..



But I can understand frustration and anger - most customers are naturally a little upset when pulled. You just learn how to deal with it calmly and professionally without causing further upset.

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Take with a chuckle or a grain of salt
Drive without COAST and it's all your own fault!

A SMILE is a curve that sets everything straight (P Diller).

A Smiley Per post
FINES USfor our COAST!

Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon - but driving with a smile and a COAST calm mind.

CO, PaulF is not a lone voice, most people that have been caught and processed by the mindless system have exactly the same opinion. My level of voluntary co-operation with law enforcement authority is now Zero after I was forced into a no win situation by traffic police playing the "hit the target" game with their unmarked cars and hidden speed camera, and it has only been raised back up to that level by the sensible postings of people like In Gear and other Police officers that post on this site - before joining in here I would rate it as less than zero - by which I mean that I would actively go out of my way to be obstructive, such is the level of resentment it caused.

My opions on many other things have also been changed: this country doesn't have a Justice system - it has an Injustice system. Democracy doesn't exist in the UK - unless you chose to embed youself in the stinking corrupt system you have no voice. All government information is lies, all polititians are corrupt scheming bastards more concerned about personal ambition than about representing people.

Oh, and more importantly, for 3 years after being stung, I was driving 18,000 miles a year in a red mist rage at the road authorities, their failures and stupidity and incompetance.

I got pinged by a complete wanker, who took no regard for my polite demeanour or the conditions or my riding ability.

I know its ridiculous, but it makes me think I should just have given him a load of verbal, if nothing els eto make me feel better. He took the piss, and I have little or no respect for you anymore. If you knew anything about me youd also know thats a big deal.

In which case wouldn't he have extracted more pleasure from giving you a ticket knowing you were really pissed about it but there was nothing you could do?