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Was behind one tonight 30 mph and she slows to 20 mph! It's getting to be a natural reaction - I'm starting to anticipated the emergency stop as soon as the bleep starts. Even when we are legal


I'll bet this slow down confuses pedestrains too as they could misjudge speed to below speed limit and than acceleration to speed limit after the scam and Widly did observe people looking at dash on approach and in mirrors on passing to check a flash. None were looking ahead - and she observed this as passenger whilst being driven by our son.

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Well you have to look in your mirror to check for the double flash - otherwise you won't remember the occasion for when the NIP appears. It's compulsory, as is looking at your speedo twice on the approach and once in the target zone.

If you didn't do this then you wouldn't have anything to argue about when the reflection or whatever triggers the thing at the lower speed, and the scam operators accidentatally on purpose forget to check the photos (or the camera is set to 0.7 not 0.5 sec).

I people braking for speed cameras a lot when they're within the speed limit- occasionally emergency braking!

They may be in the wrong for doing that but it's just another hazard these days.

Often the speed limit is very poorly marked and not obvious from the style and nature of the road. They say you should do 30 if you're not sure but what if there's no lamp posts and obscured or missing repeater signs. (Slightly off-topic) shouldn't the driver assume this is a 60 limit until passing a repeater or lamp posts if the limit is not apparent?

From a pedestrian point of view cars can sometimes go too slow. When I am crossing the road if a car slows down too much as it approaches me I find myself walking too far out into the road as I misjudge his speed. I know it's stupid but for some reason I can't stop edgeing out until I' m in danger of clipping his wing mirror.

Witnessed today at the Gatso just east of the Sunningdale level crossing on the A30 in Surrey: driver going just slightly over 30, maybe even under it depending on speedo accuracy, and heeeeere's the Gatso... on go the brake lights, it probably doesn't have any film in it since it was pointing at a tree for months last year and they weren't fussed about fixing it, but you never know and this guy obviously wasn't prepared to take the chance. The usual Pavlovan response.



Oh, did I mention what he was driving? Wait for it ..... a Hi Top Trannie with high viz markings and Surrey Police decals all over it.

Well, it's comforting to know that Surrey don't hire stupid cops but kind of shows how almost anyone can become conditioned to brakig for the damn things.

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Eh?
How the hell do you convince the public that they should think of others around them when the licence, livelihood etc are at risk. Especially when the one that rams you from behind (ahem!) is normally considered guilty.

The cameras are the problem, not the drivers.

Youre assuming the scumera operators want us to know the limits. Amatuer mistake. The same way as its illegal to warn drivers of a scumera up ahead, because they dont really want you to slow down.

Its fucked up

I personally like to leave myself a significant margin of error when passing a speed camera. You never know what margin of leeway you will be given. ie for some cameras you will be ticketed at 35 in a 30 others it will be significantly higher.

Because of this passing a camera in a 30 limit zone at more than 30 is extremely risky (too risky for me) and staying 2-3 mph under the limit is the best course of action.

Incidentally there is a road near me going over towards Leeds which has around 10 speed cameras on a 2 mile stretch. Because of the sheer number of cameras traffic moves in fits and starts as drivers continually brake for the cameras and there is significant bunching of traffic. The road has also been recently reduced to a 30 limit too. Because of the sheer frustration of using this road due to the slow speeds and constant stop start many drivers are now diverting on to more minor residential roads which are even more dangerous. Another victory for the SCP!!

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[quote="samcro"]Has anyone noticed that some people slow down a lot (more than neccessary) for speed cameras?

Recently in the City of London a motorcyclist passed me at, I guess about 40mph, and for some reason verred across my path. At that moment he suddenly spotted the speed camera we were approaching and slammed on the brakes slowing to well below the obligatory 30mph. If his attrocious driving had not already caused me to hit the brakes I would most definately have run in to him. Interestingly as soon as he had passed the speed grid in the road he rapidly sped off into the distance. Cameras simply don't work because this is what the majority of drivers do - hit the brakes as they pass the camera and then take off again.