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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 23:10 
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Triple S - we allow a fair tolerance in our patch - and it is above the guidelines withing reason - 10% plus 4 or 5 dependent on which road. We may go down the the +2 on our more dangerous spots. But these are the roads with history- and the ones we have identiifed and recommended some further action on - engineering, paint, straightening and so on. But overall our approach of fair, firm and dollp of roadside education shows in our set of stats year on year. No gimmicks - just honest BiBs out and about.

Like cotswold - I drive a lot in Germany - and you also know that Wildy :neko: is my cousin. That family all trained in Germany - and I have to acknowledge that there is a big difference right from the outset in terms of actual probationer skill. We need this standard introducing here really. It helps. Find German slip roads are a lot tighter than here though. :shock:

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Have seen the honest comments from our BIBS, BUT

IMHO it seems that by closing the book and keeping stum there is something to be hidden - like the "missing" black box.
Surprised some newshound hasn't used the FOI act to get more.
Trouble is that this sort of suspicion of a "cover up " only tarnishes all BIB, especialy with the association of police and scams
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."..if we are speeding and there is no need for it - then we should face same consequences as any other member of the public. Otherwise - our authority is compromised."


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Two answers depending on hat worn !!

As a Bib, can't agree with your proposal - 60/70% margin is way above what I'd drive without blues - training or real call.

Off duty, and having driven a lot in Germany, have no problem with this concept on appropriate roads, in appropriate conditions - and with appropriate level of skills and road maintenance, neither of which do we really have in the UK.


No Cotswold, I know in your position you can't possibly accept my proposal, but I can assure you that the upper limits of my speeding excesses are done very carefully, as indeed are the more restrained speeds.

It is often said that even if I were to be a real expert (which I will not claim to be, as I have never been checked out in advanced driving terms) one has to make allowances for all the other road users and their shortcomings. That is quite true and I do work on that basis.

The result of all this is that I believe the risk of me coming into conflict with another road user is extremely small. I believe it is probably a smaller risk than for most drivers, and certainly small enough not to worry about.

The only things I might worry about are mechanical problems (including tyres) and the intervention of stray animals.

Unless one takes the view that nothing must ever go wrong I think I have things fairly well covered, but I remain vigilent and the learning process continues.

I know that NSL plus 60-70% is pretty extreme, and it will be book throwing time if/when I get caught, but I don't think you need to worry about me (and the road users around me) too much - that is if you were minded to do so. :)

Best wishes all,
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cotswold wrote:
Two answers depending on hat worn !!

As a Bib, can't agree with your proposal - 60/70% margin is way above what I'd drive without blues - training or real call.


60 mph * 1.6 is 96mph. Are you sure? I can't believe you don't get over 96mph on single carriageway NSLs in good conditions while training.

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Triple S - we allow a fair tolerance in our patch - and it is above the guidelines withing reason - 10% plus 4 or 5 dependent on which road. We may go down the the +2 on our more dangerous spots. But these are the roads with history- and the ones we have identiifed and recommended some further action on - engineering, paint, straightening and so on. But overall our approach of fair, firm and dollp of roadside education shows in our set of stats year on year. No gimmicks - just honest BiBs out and about.


I have no doubt you take a pretty fair attitude towards the speeders you deal with, and I'm sure cotswold and many other BiB do the same, and I do welcome that.

Unfortunately there is no way that your range of discretion can be sufficient to accommodate me, so I just hope we don't meet on the road, well not while I'm adoing awhat comes naturalee - in the words of the song! :wink:

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60 mph * 1.6 is 96mph. Are you sure? I can't believe you don't get over 96mph on single carriageway NSLs in good conditions while training.


Oh, many a time Paul - bit the key bit in my posting was without blues - at 96 on an NSL I'd definately have lights on, probably using siren when needed as well.

If nothing else, round here it stops the pheasants getting stuck in the grille :D


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