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Does any one have any idea when this photograph was take? The clues are the motor cars and the fact that the traffic light pole is striped. Unfortunately IHvae been unable to find out when that practice ceased.

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When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

lack of white lines, no system of street lighting, no cashpoint in the bank

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The car coming towards the camera looks like a 50s model to me. Rover 60/75?

The oncoming car looks like it might be a Rover 90, which was in production from 1954 to 1959. I also found this on "Whackypedia"

"...The major reform of UK road signage to more reflect mainland European practice happened in two stages. The first was associated with the first motorway construction project and the development of a signage system for it by the Anderson Committee (1957). Although it was additional to the existing signage, it set a number of benchmarks that were developed under the Worboys Committee (1963) that was largely responsible for the road signage system effected from 1964, which is still current. Until Worboys, the most notable differences between European signs and those in the UK was their reliance on symbols without text wherever possible, thereby increasing the internationalism of their 'language', together with their combined nature, for instance the warning signs having the symbol inside the triangle instead of on a separate information plate. The Worboys Committee recommended that such practices were adopted in the UK and the 'New Traffic Signs' of 1964 were part of the most comprehensive reformation of the UK streetscape that the country has experienced. Unlike previous government efforts to regulate signage, which tended to be cumulative, Worboys argued a modernist position of starting from zero, with all previous signs being deemed obsolete, illegal even, therefore subject to total and systematic replacement. As a result local authorities were charged with massive resignage programmes. Order and Prohibition signs were almost all replaced within a couple of years, with the warning and direction signs taking somewhat longer. Few pre 1964 warning signs survived more than about ten years, and, while direction signs were similarly replaced, more have survived as they were not deemed as essential as the others in regulatory terms.

The system currently in use was mainly developed in the late 1950s and the early 1960s, with additional colour coding introduced in the mid 1980s. There were three major steps in the development of the system..."

So I'm going for early 1960s.

Have you tried looking on the back of the photo dcb?

Was the bridge named after your father?

I've been trying to figure what that square box thing on the left is? It doesn’t look like post box and it sure aint no parking ticket dispenser

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its an early red light camera tone, pre - empting their invention

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No speed camera in sight....I'm suprised there's no carnage....

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You mean there's a policeman hiding inside watching for real danger Now there is an idea CO

No power assisted steering or pedestrian-friendly crumple zones, useless cable operated drum brakes and not a single anywhere to be seen. How any children made it into adulthood is beyond me. I must be the luckiest man alive.

I'm going with Mole on this one, early 60's, mainly because I know he knows his car stuff.

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Doh! never thought of that


I think that it is contains the relays which control the traffic lights.

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When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

here we go again

so a policeman stopping red light violations is ok, but not an automated system

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Oh yeah. I forgot how big everything was back then. Probably 20 of them housed in Bakelite, each one the size of a brick. (I bet they never went wrong though, like they do today).

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Here we go again...

A policeman can see what is dangerous and what is not. I went over a red light along with many others because after we'd all waited for ten minutes, and seeing other traffic moving and stopping, it because obvious the ones on our line were broken.

Would automation consider this?

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no it would not, but is that an every day event, although i will add the internal settings on a RLC would highlight the sequence failure

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I think it most certainly is an everyday event; did you read my posts on drivers regularly crossing red lights outside my work base to let emergency vehicles through?

It highlights how an absolute offence gives no wriggle room for common sense and good reason, which a traf pol could. And let’s not forget that jumping a red light carries a severe penalty, including to your insurance premium.

Also, in my case, it was something which wasn't fixed for weeks, (or if it was it failed again), because I ended up doing it three times so I eventually just avoided that road. Luckily I was never the driver at the front having to make the first jump, so I just went with the flow.

(Sorry Dave, I’m not trying to steal your thread mate).

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Chaps stay on topic or we'll have to split the thread.

DBC - why do you need to know the date of the photo ?
Can an archive specialist help too ?

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Oh yes they did. Surely you know the origin of the term "bug" to describe a fault.
http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/tek1/first_computer_bug.htm

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

It is from our local history forum http://www.whaleybridge.net/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=911
We are trying to establish when the Bank in the photograph closed. We do have archive specialists but there is no information in the NatWest (who eventually absorbed District) archive.

Apropos another thread that picture does illustrate how little traffic there was at that time. You could safely allow a child to cycle there. Today the road is double parked out of site and there is a steady stream of traffic.

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

I would have thought that the local Council, a local historian or local museum might also be able to help.

If I get a min I'll see if I can dig up info on the lighting system and it's dates used.
I have no knowledge about the cars and how long they might have been popular.
I agree that with no road markings that will help to date it.

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if you dont mind

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I'm surprised there's not an app for it, like Google Googles I don't have that app but I wonder if you can take a picture of a photo or the real place and retrieve info?

I'm not just a pretty face sometimes you know? (Don't answer that Grabs)

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.