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Who said anything about cutting the cost of fuel? Is this another one of your sophistric diversions, BW??

I thought the point of the original post was how could we fund the road safety improvements....

Oh tut tut Pete. I reckon you need to go and pay a visit to your local Council's Equality, Inclusion and Diversity Advisor, or perhaps the ADHD Co-ordinator or their Nuritional Value Consumption Director and then you'd see what value 30K per annum buys you.

<Homer Simpsonesque pause>

Heyyyyy...wait a second, those aren't JOBS.

Yes, everything is going fine in Russia except for the petrol price!

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This thread has been seriously derailed

Interesting, of course, but what has the price of petrol in russia got to do with whether or not a copper did the right thing with that speeding motorist?

Not moaning - just making an observation

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HornetRider

Trying to survive in South Wales

Oh for goodness sake, typical newby not being able to see how we get cleverly and articulately from booking motorists to Russian fuel prices
It's quite simple...we er, um, that is we can argue that,um the thingy from that government chap, er... oh heck, help me out here someone.

is that the point, or is this the point?



How should I know? I just know that you can get a lot of butties in a transit van, whatever the price of petrol!

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Give it another couple of hundred posts,

It'll be bang on topic again!

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Fixed ideas are like cramp, for instance in the foot, yet the best remedy is to step on them.

Ian

Never heard a better argument for binning the scams and hiring more coppers. If you want enforcement that actually works you have to pay for it!

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Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler - Einstein

Not if you work in the private sector, that is.



Or when the previous lot were in, when we had a three-day working week, 19 shillings in the pound tax, and when people left the country in droves - and took their money with them. Not surprised that it took so long for things to come right.

Can I nominate this for "Post of the Month"?

In my mind I can actually hear Homer saying that, and it adds immeasurably to the debate...

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CSCP Latin for beginners...
Ticketo ergo sum : I scam therefore I am!

Motorists have to pay for it!

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This might make you laugh:

[quote]
Yes, I'm tired. For several years I've been blaming it on middle age, poor
blood, lack of vitamins, air pollution, saccharin, obesity, dieting,
under-arm odour, yellow wax build-up and a dozen other maladies that make you wonder if life is really worth living.

But I've found out it ain't any of that.

I'm tired because I'm overworked.

The population of this country is 51 million. 21 million are retired; that
leaves 30 million to do the work.

There are 19 million in school; that leaves 11 million to do the work.

2 million are unemployed and a million are employed by the government; that leaves 5 million to do the work.

1 million are in the armed forces, which leaves 4 million to do the work.

3 million are employed by county and borough councils, leaving 1 million to do the work.

There are 620,000 people in hospital and 378,998 in prison.

That leaves TWO people to do the work.

You and me.

And you're sitting on your arse reading this.

No wonder I'm tired!!!

[quote]

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No they don't. It comes out of general taxation which is perfectly fair as all road users should contribute, and virtually everyone is a road user. It isn't just mototrists who use the roads as you frequently like to remind us.

Anyway, my point is not about where the money comes from but what it is spent on. We've had over a decade of cheap never-mind-the-quality-feel-the-width road safety and increasingly it looks like it wasn't worth the money.

We all have an interest in road safety, so really it comes down to whether we want it to be good or to be cheap. IMO screw the cost and let's pay for what works, and lose the lamentable pound shop policies of recent years.

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Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler - Einstein

i'm too tired to read it all, but I'll take your word for it

Not much of a chance of that changing, I'm afraid - in fact it's getting worse.

The road safety bill they're pushing through at the moment allows for a £60 3-point fixed penalty for using a hand-held mobile in a car - even if the car is stationary and the engine is turned off.

You're not even safe if you're out of the car - they can ban you for being drunk in charge of a vehicle, if you're within a quarter of a mile of your car and you have your keys.

And even non-drivers aren't safe. The bill they're pushing through with grim determination (come hell or high water) at the moment will enable the hon. minister to place you under house arrest at a whim - even if there's absolutely no evidence against you.

What do you think, BW? Should these laws be enforced to the letter?

Cheers
Peter

Yes, I find that one a bit scary. I never thought I'd find myself saying this, but thank God for the House of Lords. Unfortunately Tony's probably getting the Parliament Act ready again . We spent 30 years at risk of being blown up by Irish terrorists and everyone just got on with it, now suddenly the only way to protect us against maniacs is to have the sort of measures the maniacs themselves would want if they were in charge .

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Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler - Einstein

So do I. I really have my doubts about their motives - especially as history has shown, time and time again, that these measures simply do not work.
Many countries have detained, and tortured, their own citizens without trial, only to find that the bombings have continued unabated.

Cheers
Peter

basingwerk,

very funny, made a great start to my day.

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Ross

Yes I'm a hoon, but only on the track!!!!

No wonder the country is in the state it's in......

If at least 50% if the workforce are mathematically incompetent!

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Fixed ideas are like cramp, for instance in the foot, yet the best remedy is to step on them.

Ian

and the other half of us are... er... well.....

Nice one, Ian

Cheers
Peter