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PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 16:17 
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Hi folks
I'm going to explain some things about the law but don't take this as legal advice

There are two types of law on this land one is common-law (your God-given rights)and the other is statute law, commercial law (Admiralty law or fleet maritime law) the land of contracts

common law which applies to me the human being Rob of the Wolf family and my God given rights and statute law which applies to the person MR ROB WOLF (notice the MR and all the letters in my name had been capitalised) which is a fiction and applies to my birth certificate

when and if you're I received a fixed penalty notice it applies to the person your birth certificate a fiction not you
the human being

fixed penalty notices are an offer not a bill so why not refuse their offer "no thanks mate not interested"

If you think you own your car or your motorbike or whatever you need a registration certificate for by registering your vehicle you're effectively hand over ownership of it to the government notice on the registration certificate V5C its says and registered keeper not registered owner

The Law Society use a language called legalese which sounds like English but is not And is best used to confuse you

I will post some more later including the websites where I get this information from and some good videos explaining common law and statute law

I will post a more about the law later and website so I got this got information from and to videos are well worth watching

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Yeah I know I'm up late

Tip: If you get a fixed penalty notice put it back in the envelope straightaway without writing anything on it seal the envelope with sticky tape them write across the plastic window "NO CONTRACT" then underneath that on the envelope write "return to sender" (make sure the envelope has a return address on it) put it in the letterbox and posted it back to them and if they send it back to you do the same as above and send it back to them again

Sorry but this is not legal advice but I will do this if I get a another fixed penalty notice

I will post more on this subject later

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:welcome: rwolf

I can see your point about the 'letter of the Law' but you would have to take this to Court and make a Court Ruling - I believe - to make this 'stick' - become Case Law of others to then benefit by. But I too am no lawyer and cannot advise.

Can you link to your sources that you mention please ?
The 'ownership' of your car is in your Purchase Contract, the DVLA cannot give you ownership 'rights'. They merely acknowledge your registration. At least this is how I understand it to be. :)

Do visit PePIPoo for legal advice on matters.

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Hey SafeSpeedv2 thanks for the welcome my friend

How to unregistrar your car

This is not legal advice and is very simplistic

This is only if your vehicle is used for personal use - not commercial

Send a notice(a letter recorded delivery) to the DVLA (private company run for profit) stating that you wish to unregistrar your vehicle (notices needs to be typed out in legal form) the DVLA will not reply to your letter, then get two friends as witnesses to send a letter to the DVLA saying the same thing these letters will also not get a reply

now think of a numberplate you'd like to put on your vehicle and place an advert in your local newspaper for 28 days stating the fact that your car will now have this numberplate attached it also send a letter to your local police service stating these facts

now your vehicle is officially unregistered with your number one plate attached which means you do not need to tax it it doesn't need an MoT and you don't need a driving licence or insurance to convey yourself up in your private vehicle

You will get pulled over by the police and you will need to know what to say to them (more following later on what to say)

I believe quite a few people have already unregistered their vehicle and quite a lot of people are about to unregister their vehicles, this is driving the DVLA nuts

some people are saying that the government is about to change the law regarding these matters

Underneath is one version of the letter (notice) that you can send to the DVLA to unregister your vehicle

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6th May 2009

Served by way of Royal Mail Recorded Delivery


NOTICE OF NON CO-OPERATION


Mr CEO

Take note of the crime report which was drawn up by Chris Coverdale, lawyer and expert in international war law at this URL address: http://www.makewarshistory.org.uk/in...me-report.html

The crimes detailed in that report committed by the government of the United Kingdom, have been quite clearly evident for all too see.

Your conduct and the conduct of those working for Ministry of Transport trading as DVLA, appears to be conduct ancillary to: war crimes; crimes against humanity; genocide; and complicity in crimes against the peace.

It is my understanding that any person or corporation collecting or paying tax, fines levies and the like, to a government who are committing war crimes, is committing the crime of conduct ancillary to genocide, conduct ancillary to crimes against humanity and conduct ancillary to war crimes which are three crimes under section 52 of the International Criminal Court Act 2001, and complicity to crimes against peace which is a criminal offence under the Nuremberg Principles.

Article 24 Chapter VI of the Manual of Military Law applies to every British citizen and taxpayer as well as to servicemen and women. This means that if a government embarks on an illegal war, anyone who co-operates with a government that wages a war of aggression is complicit in a crime against peace and is criminally liable as an accessory to war crimes.

“Whosoever shall aid, abet, counsel or procure the commission of any indictable offence, whether the same be an offence at common law or by virtue of any Act passed or to be passed, shall be liable to be tried, indicted, and punished as a principal offender.” Section 8 of the Accessories and Abettors Act 1861

As you are well aware, ignorance of the law is no excuse. Therefore, it is my obligation in accordance with the law of England and Wales, international law and common law that I cease to co-operate with the criminal United Kingdom government and cease to register, submit, contribute, pay tax in any shape or form either directly or indirectly to its corporate entities or recognise its correspondence, as to do so would be criminal and also morally wrong.

The car known to you as registration number “*******” is now to be deemed as de-registered by all parties and in the absolute private ownership of the man/woman know as [first name]-[middle name] of the family [surname]. Enclosed is a copy of the cancelled V5 and cancelled driving licence. Your registration plates will be taken off the car and private reference plates of my own choosing will be put on in their place. The constabulary local to me will be informed also.

Do not send any correspondence to the above address, as it will not be recognised.

I write this notice in clear and stark terms for the avoidance of any doubt.


Sincerely,


By:


Soon in the next couple of days or so I will give out the websites where I'm getting this information from please be patient

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 17:35 
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Surely your vehicle won't be insured either, if it's not registered for use on a public road?


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rwolf wrote:
but don't take this as legal advice


don't worry... i think you're safe there.


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rwolf wrote:
but don't take this as legal advice


don't worry... i think you're safe there.



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I am not sure I know what to think - asks many questions:

Is it not illegal to drive a car on the Queens Highway without Insurance ... I know that you can pay a large fee (to Government department) to cover yourself - or be covered by a Company insurance or your own private insurance. Your suggestion seems to have no insurance ?

I just don't know about un-registering and privately registering ? Don't think that I have ever heard of this before ! ?

I agree that there is a 'joint' offense by participation but I am not sure that it can be included to subjects of a democratic government ? Generally if you do not like what is being done, you vote appropriately at the next election.

There is a danger that you might be enticing people to commit a crime but driving a car illegally ... which might be a crime in itself !
I still think that you are wrong about the ownership rights of a car being handed over.
Otherwise in recent Police events, when they impound a car and the 'owner' needs to sign over the rights to the Police, they sign to say that they don't want the car back (or sign that they do - or don't sign to say they do - I don't know), and the Police can then dispose of it how they deem fit .... why do that if you already own it ?
Think we had better see links to all references that show this to be (even) legal ... it is curious though ... but I am skeptical.

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No, I'm pretty certain it's an offence under the Registration and Licensing Regulations (1971, I think!) not to have a car registered if used on a public road. Put it this way, I'm not about to try it myself!


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:welcome: to you Mr Wolf. You certainly have an unconventional viewpoint :)

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Take note of the crime report which was drawn up by Chris Coverdale, lawyer and expert in international war law at this URL address: http://www.makewarshistory.org.uk/in...me-report.html
This link appears to be "intentionally left blank" :)

A I understand it the International Criminal Court Act can only be used against individuals not organisations. Certainly it has only ever been used against individuals, just as the post WWII trials at Nuremberg only indicted individuals. You pay your taxes to the government. War is declared by the Prime Minister. The fact that he uses taxpayer's money to wage that war does not implicate the individual taxpayer.

A good analogy would be if you donate money to a charity. The charity arranges a fund raising bash at which an employee gets drunk and then kills someone whist driving home. Are you and the other patrons of the society accessories to his crime of drink driving? Even on the individual level - if you give your son £100 birthday present and he used it to get drunk and then drives are you an accessory? Using your logic no employee would dare pay a salary for fear it was used in the commission of a crime.

I do think that you would be on very shaky ground in using the so-called Nuremberg defence - that one may commit a lesser crime to prevent a greater - to justify withholding taxes. It could be argued the waging an illegal war is not the greater crime, when one considers the devastating effect that a total lack of tax revenue would have on the country and its inhabitants.

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Hi RWolf.

I don't know what your intentions are for this thread, my apologies if I have wrongly read too much into it.
The Safe Speed campaign does not condone breaking the Law. You may not be advocating doing that, but I would like to err on the side of caution by highlighting forum rule #4 to make sure you won't fall foul of it with your upcoming posts.

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rwolf wrote:
If you think you own your car or your motorbike or whatever you need a registration certificate for by registering your vehicle you're effectively hand over ownership of it to the government notice on the registration certificate V5C its says and registered keeper not registered owner

Hmm, strange, because when I insure my car one of the questions that the insurer will ask is "Are you the legal owner and registered keeper?"
As a matter of fact, due to a complex set of circumstances I am the registered keeper on my wifes car, but she is the legal owner, this is reflected on her insurance certificate which reads:
"Policyholder: Mrs. Odin who is the legal owner but not the registered keeper." Apart from the name that is verbatim.

Now it seems to me that there are two choices here
1) Every motor insurance company in the the country has got it wrong and you are the only person out of 60,000,000ish people in the UK who believes this to be true.
2) You are wrong.

I know which I am more inclined to lean toward.


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rwolf wrote:
but I will do this if I get a another fixed penalty notice


Feeling a bit sore after getting caught out? :roll:


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Hey dcbwhaley and Steve thanks for the welcome people

I'm not advising you to break the law I'm advising you to know the law and it ain't you think

I wouldn't advised doing anything I posted unless you're fully conversant with the law on this land because you will need to know what to say to the police and what to say in court

Did you know that the Houses of Parliament is a private company run for profit the Labour Party is a private company run for profit all the county council's and borough councils are private companies run for profit all the Police services in Britain are private companies run for profit the NHS is a private company run for profit nothing is publicly owned

I was hoping to do a few more posts but it looks like I'll have to post the links to this information in my next post which will be a two-hour video so makes some time in your diary to watch this video and at the end of it you'll see the law and this world in a completely different view and how it has been used to manipulate us

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Did you know that the Houses of Parliament is a private company run for profit the Labour Party is a private company run for profit all the county council's and borough councils are private companies run for profit all the Police services in Britain are private companies run for profit the NHS is a private company run for profit nothing is publicly owned

And let me guess - Elvis is still alive?


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How does the NHS make profit?

Are you fully conversant with the language on this land? (sic)

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Did you know that the Houses of Parliament is a private company run for profit the Labour Party is a private company run for profit all the county council's and borough councils are private companies run for profit all the Police services in Britain are private companies run for profit the NHS is a private company run for profit nothing is publicly owned


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rwolf wrote:
don't take this as legal advice


I think you will find there are many people on this forum with a much better understanding of the law than you are demonstrating.

Go ahead with your theory but I think you are on a hiding to nothing.

And do let us know how you get on.

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Hey dcbwhaley and Steve thanks for the welcome people

I'm not advising you to break the law I'm advising you to know the law and it ain't you think

I wouldn't advised doing anything I posted unless you're fully conversant with the law on this land because you will need to know what to say to the police and what to say in court

Did you know that the Houses of Parliament is a private company run for profit the Labour Party is a private company run for profit[/quote[


The term for a club ist "surplus over expenditure" :popcorn: und these go to "reserves und provisions" :popcorn:
for rainy drizzly drab dark days :popcorn:

I am being fair mind .. as ist Normal to me.

We all know about the oinky snout fat lardy piglet expenses by the way.




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all the county council's and borough councils are private companies run for profit all the Police services in Britain are private companies run for profit the NHS is a private company run for profit nothing is publicly owned


Again ./.surplus over expenditure... HOWEVER .. to get the full budget.. you spend reserves.. two month before fiscal year end. :wink: so as to get the toppest amount. We ain't stupid. We "sharky pharmaceutical types ) know when to flog the vaccines :popcorn:

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I was hoping to do a few more posts but it looks like I'll have to post the links to this information in my next post which will be a two-hour video so makes some time in your diary to watch this video and at the end of it you'll see the law and this world in a completely different view and how it has been used to manipulate us



I do not know who you are. I think you mean well intent, I will make one request .. we are road safety enthusiasts who want to enjoy our cars but want cake und eat it perhhaps at times to some. :wink: My request ist that you tone it down a smidgeon or so. We know.. we understand 100% where you post from. We agree in principle but think you need to modify very much.

Do not take the wrong way. I am meaning in friendship.. but this ist a board for those enthused with road safey principles und sense of justice.

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OK having had too many glasses of vino I suggest the following.......

Respect your fellow road users . They have just as much (no more and no less) right to use the road as you do.

Most of them are pretty decent folk. (apart from the odd muppet).....

This may sound strange, but (particularly on motorways). anticipate other drivers manoeveres before they do..... (I'm thinking motorway overtakes here.......
Any comments???????


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