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So who pushed the woman off the bike?

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

Thanks Claire. My sis has a plate and wires in her wrist and still lots of pain and bruising. I didn’t mean it to take over the thread although it’s interesting how some here are so censorious of my friend, the rider; as though the book should been thrown at him for dangerous driving even though until this small incident he’s had an Impeccable driving record for the last 28 years.

No-one feels guiltier than he about what happened and what he’s put my sis through, but the expense is beyond belief and the police, in true tradition, seem hell-bent on adding insult to injury although we hope not.

The driver was unhurt and if the bumper on the car was wiped clean you would be hard pushed to see anything at all. There was a smudge where the rubber of his wheel came to rest on the bumper. As I said, it was just the fact that sis fell sideways and there happened to be an embankment making the fall greater. Coincidentally, the break she suffered was exactly the same as a girl I work with had last winter when she slipped on ice trying to take a photo of a nice country scene. The difference was she just fell off her legs instead.

I really don’t know what to think and maybe because I’ve been accident-free for so long this all seems completely OTT. My friend is a very nice humble guy who will not fight his corner; instead he will put his faith in the legal system. I’m rather more cynical.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Then feast your eyes!

Not sure this lady should be allowed to drive. Just happened outside my work base. She couldn’t get out so tried to mount the curb and got the engine stuck on it. I know I shouldn’t laugh but She had to abandon it. I’ll go down and see if I can help her later…

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

And you struggle with the concept of a metaphor

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

If the way you describe it is accurate than the reaction is way over the top. Had That happened to my car I would probably have ended up driving your sis to A&E myself.

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Yes yes! Exactly! But for the fact I was also on my motorbike and it wouldn't have been wise to put her on the back of another one, if I was in my car she could have just sat in the front and I would have took her to A&E.

Oh, BTW, it is accurate; I swear it on everything that's precious to me!

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

The best way to prevent accidents is to remove the possibility of fully comprehensive insurance. Make it illegal, once and for all.

The logical conclusion of this line of thinking is that those with no insurance at all will be the most careful. Oh dear ...

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

Yes. Mrs Thatcher taught us that there is no incentive to take care when somebody else pays.

Look at all those spivs in their hire-purchased vanity cars. They'd think on if they had to fork out for a bump.

PS: Why buy insurance if we act carefully enough to avoid any risk? It would be a waste of money!
It's only worth forking out for insurance if it allows us to act less carefully than we would have to act
without it.

How did she do that? I must have missed that lesson!

Insurance protects us in the event of the occurrence of unfortunate events over which we have no control. A friend of mine, in New Mexico, had his car trashed by golf ball sized hailstones. That is an event that no amount of careful behaviour could have prevented. Other people have had there house destroyed by lightening or flash floods despite being very careful.

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

But surely the idea of insurance was that it compensated the person who was injured in these 'Acts of God' ?

Not so anymore. It's about greed! I know, (but I can't say why ), of countless claims from simple shunts followed by cries of "Whiplash" which echo from four corners of the Earth!

Kerching! FOUR-FIGURE PAYOUT - EVERY TIME thank you! It's the norm in my experience.

It is a real condition from such an accident but OMG do people milk it!

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Then we wouldn't use it for cars, because we do have control over those (at least I hope so). By banning fully comp, we are showing that we have faith in our own driving, and our ability to control our cars. Only bad drivers need fully comp.

That's an unfair comment. There is a difference between need and want.
I don't believe there is anyone who believes there is absolutely no chance of them ever making some sort of mistake in their driving lifetimes. Many people like the piece of mind that such a mistake won't become an insurmountable financial burden.
Fully comp covers vandalism of the car; it also gives third party insurance to drive other cars.

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...and only fools generalise...

Still, I am heartened to know that every baseball-capped muppet hoofing his 1 litre "Maxxed-out" Corsa round on 3rd party only insurance isn't therefore likely to be a "bad"driver!

There are many "unfortunate events" that can occur to a motor car, however good the driver. Being stolen, being pranged whilst legally parked, windscreen shattered by a stone are afew which spring to mind.

There might be merit in not allowing people to insure against the consequences of ones own foolishness and many, non motor, policies do have such exclusions. If I left my front door open and was burgled I certainly wouldn't be covered by my household policy.

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

When I step out of the house and find that someone has driven into my car and then driven off, I will certainly question my driving ability.

(actually, maybe on the strength of never having made an insurance claim I should agree with abercrombie for once!)

More generalising?

Yes - just ban it for crashes.


This Buxton man knows which way the wind blows. Nice architecture in Buxton, BTW. So there we have it - insurance cause crashes. So what should we do about it?