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Can I give you my answers?



Zero is what we should be striving for on the public roads.



If they think any speed at all is a "safe speed" then they've lost the argument already IMO.



No, and many drivers are "lucky" in that respect.

If drivers were put under the same scrutiny as pilots and suffered the same penalties (and training regime) they're be a lot less of em on the road.

That is easy to achieve. Do not allow motor vehicles on the public roads. Of course that would lead to lots of other deaths caused by people not being able to get to hospitals quickly, fire engines not been able to get to fires and so on. The question is to find point where the number of KSIs is worth the benefits gained by having vehicles on the road.

And, as I have already said that decision is not the remit of an highway engineer

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

I have to agree with you 100% on that one DCB, IMO the best qualified for such jobs are the police.

Their highly trained and experienced drivers should, with the aid of mean speed surveys, be able to determine what a safe limit for any stretch of road is by driving it, accident rates (taking into account types of accident) and mean speeds.

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

Absolutley, but who (ie which group) would you have making that decision?

Democratically elected politicians. Damn that shoots my argument down

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Interesting.

Do you move as part of your daily routine?

Almost an oxymoron I suggest

Yes, I regulary drive a car, but I wouldn't be so arrogant to suggest any speed faster than 0mph is a safe speed.

I didn't mention cars, did I?

Why would that suggestion be arrogant? Oh yes, it involves cars.

Can any human activity be described as 100% safe? If not (surely you're not making a special case for motorised transport) then by that logic it's arrogant for anyone, anywhere to describe anything as safe.

Is 0 MPH that safe? I know lots of people that died in their sleep...my grandad got shot in the war just standing still....what is safe?

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving

Same for push bikes, or motorcycles, or running.

Ooh I know.. got the answer


let's turn all human life into stone statues. There.. that should do it. No one moves then!





I'd rephrase that. As a medic - it's one of the funny questions I sometimes ask

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NOT THAT KIND OF MOVEMENT!!!

So is a knife in the wrong hands; as is alcohol, fire-matches and of course driving.

When used properly and responsibly there is not a problem with any of them. You wouldn’t blame the knife for being in someone's back but the person who put it there, so why is it different with speeding? Why blame the speed for killing someone instead of the idiot who used it irresponsibly?

I would rather have a much heavier penalty for drivers going too fast where it is unsafe, (like driving without due care and attention or dangerous driving), instead of penalising a driver who is over an 'ignorant' posted limit where it is safe to do so. It sends a much clearer message – Drive Safely or else!

I would rather a driver do 100+ mph on a clear open stretch of DC than overtake me at 30mph an inch from my handlebars, as indeed someone did when I was cycling to work just this morning . One is relatively safe the other most definitely is not! If I was a traff pol I may let the first instance go with a warning but I would prosecute the later.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Last paragraph reminds me of 'Johnny's 19th Law' which is that if I am stuck behind a slower car and we catch up a cyclist, they will invariably pass the cyclist much closer than I will.

I can only assume that you won't be risking your life on that new fast train that has been all over the news. I mean, 140 clicks, someone is going to get hurt...

Oh indeed, those arrogant train operating companies!

Sigh.

Train tracks are off limts to people, roads are not (except perhaps motorways).

How utterly ridculous.

I'm not asking for that, just that when people do move their cars (and motorbikes and cycles and shoes) they take the necessary care to mitigate danger inherent, particulary when moving a one ton vehicle around.

I simply don't think enough people do this.