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Not if you do it by sterilising all the wasters and encouraging intelligent educated people to breed

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

I think stopping financially incentivising large single-parent families might achieve a similar effect without the human-rights issues!

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Regulation without education merely creates more criminals.

With falling fertility (both male and female) the problem may well solve itself. Although I refer you to the uselessness of a country that has population control by birth control, and a rising population of aged people.
Encouraging those of higher breeding to breed more will not work either, they do not do lackeys work.
WHY do you think they "pay" people to "produce" more children ?
This country has the ability (resources) to sustain 13 million in the style to which they think they are accustomed, but 13 million could not sustain the production needed.
Either way, the next few centuries are going to be gruesome

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The world runs on oil, period. No other substance can compete when it comes to energy density, flexibility, ease of handling, ease of transportation. If oil didn’t exist we would have to invent it.”

56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

No doubt man must be responsible for the falling dust levels too.

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The world runs on oil, period. No other substance can compete when it comes to energy density, flexibility, ease of handling, ease of transportation. If oil didn’t exist we would have to invent it.”

56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

Theres a great big volcanic eruption presently going on off the coast of Tonga, and another on Mt Redoubt in Alaska.

Kicking out humungous amounts of ash, 12 miles high, thousands upon thousands of tonnes of gases and rock and lava every hour, powered by the magma chamber situated 35 odd miles below us.

I have a question for the climate change fanatics: How does turning my TV off standby prevent such events?
Furthermore, if all this carbon dioxide ( its not CARBON, get your terminology straight ignoramus ess ess essss) that these naturally occuring eruptions are "polluting" our environment with is so bad, id love to know what theyd suggest theyd do against the power of such a minor event? Stick their fingers in it perhaps?

If they cant even address such a tiny ( on a worldwide scale at least) problem as that, then its clear, theyre blabbing on about the billions of gigatonnes of atmospheric gases, but clearly they have no grasp of the sheer scales involved here or the forces behind it all. But apparently by not using plastic bags and scrapping my car, everything will somehow just "work out".
Its pitiful to see the young Mizz from the "climate camp", pasty faced, (needs a good **** to give her some perspective) twattering on about "carbon this" and " pollution" the other.... yeah, ok, like im about to take lessons from someone who never even had a job...or a wash recently, its painful to see the vacant, open eyed but otherwise blanked expression of a body that contains as much idea of whats really going on as a turnip.

Climate has always "changed", thats what it does, thats what it will always do and neither you, me or Mizz climate cretin can do anything at all about it, least of all by recycling- not that i disagree with it, but "saving the planet"?? er no And from what?
For some obscure reason best known to themselves, they seem to believe that everything "must stay as it is" and its their job to keep it that way. Muppetry of galactic proportions. Its arrogant and meddling and conceited to think we have any kind of control over environment. I know of at least two volcanoes that could put them straight on that score.
Adapt and survive i say, or dont and die. Thats natures way.

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Profitting from death and misery since 1993.

Believe nothing- Question everything.

Cruel but fair

mb

I remember reading some time ago that one reason why humans have "Prospererd" during the 19th and 20th centurys is because of an unusual sustained period of relativly stable climate brought about by an absence of the normal regular large volcanic eruptions that routinly blighted earlier centuries.

We are ready for a "reversion to the mean" sometime soon I guess! (and being volcanic, it is likly to be savage! )

(There is good reason to believe that the phrase "Dark ages" came about not because it is a recent expression that referrs to a period of history that we know little about, but rather that it is a contempary refrence to a period around 535AD where the sun was virtually blotted out globally for nearly 3 years as a result of a massive eruption of Krakatoa! )

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

The issue as i see it is like trying to do the little dutch boy finger trick in the dam, but theres so many bloody holes in it, he aint got enough pinkies to do the job with.

Instead of "making up" things for the public to worry about, equip them to survive possible outcomes.
Every animal on this planet works by that very same method. Adapting to a situation, however hostile ( volcanic undersea vents- black smokers) have life thats adapted to the surroundings in order to continue.
The yellowstone park scenario is a very real and growing threat that will make the climate camp morons ideas of catastrophe look like a day out at the park, a very real threat of an extinction level event, yet we hear nothing, absolutely NIX from them or the know all Green lobby or governments about what to do about it, and its coming, very very surely.

Just what is it about the human species that makes it think everything has got to be how IT says it should?
Fighting a battle and a war, neither of which are winnable.
The forces are so astronomically large, so unpredictable, and so invariably violent when they occur that its absolute idiocy to even try.
The only way we will ever survive anywhere near the length some other species have is to adapt to what goes on around us, modify OURSELVES rather than constantly p*ss about on the fringes to keep making it "just so".
The governments blase approach to our wellbeing is a national disgrace, they have NO PLAN, not a thing in place should the worst happen and id expect the excuses to range from "costs too much" to "Wont happen yet" as the reasoning, yet theyre w*nking themselves silly worrying about minor natural planetary temperature drifts that havent been proven to be resultant of anything humans have done or can do anything about......
Because it gives them something to scare and control people with.

I say survival of the fittest- that is the fittest for the purpose.

Back later, i just remembered my Tv's still on standby.....

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"Safety" Scamera Partnerships;
Profitting from death and misery since 1993.

Believe nothing- Question everything.

In the big scheme of things, we're still coming out of the last Ice Age, I've put this next question to lots of people and they don't seem to get it...."what does the planet do after an Ice Age?" i put the answer to them - it warms up!
We're being forced to hear statements from peope about how we're to blame for climate change, yet these same people cant' answer or understand my above question.
We should look at what the peak temperatures were in certain points on the planet after previous ice ages, and compare them to current temperatures today, am i wrong in believing parts of England were very arrid many thousands of years ago?, indicating much higher temperatures than today?
I think the real issue is preserving natural resources and seeking alternative resources / renewable energy.
I also believe that "man is to blame for climate change" sells more papers than "planet going through natural climatic cycle", the media having a large effect on not hearing a fair unbiased arguement, and since we're a nation of beleiving everything we read in the media, and jumping on bandwagons to fit in with the crowd / fashion, then its not hard to see why people have jumped on one side.
Also theirs the ego factor where someone has an opinion and will not be proved wrong and shoots down any other view point (like we see in the road safety debate), instead of looking at various view points and taking the best from each and working towards a better solution, Science should be open minded and about constantly challenging views, perceptions and facts as this is how we develop, learn and move on, not standing still narrow-mindedly arguing "Im right and your wrong!".

I’ve thought for quite some time that our Governments' have the know how and the means to use alternative resources but don’t tell the population. They would rather lead us to believe that there are no alternatives because it suits their agenda of ripping of the population and at the same time making life unbearable for those of us here today.

As an example, I stumbled across this page the other day Cold Fusion Proven. I don’t know if this is true but I’ve always been led to believe that they couldn’t use fusion because they were telling us that they have been experimenting with hot fusion, and that the heat involved was the major stumbling block. If it is true that they have mastered cold fusion which will allow virtual free "clean" energy, then why are we being told that we will have to build new cold fired power stations.

I’d class myself as a normal person when it comes to science and anyone can put me to rights for saying, but it’s my belief that our governments know a lot more than they tell us and keep us in the dark like mushrooms. I hope one day that the truth comes out and those responsible for ripping us all off, and at the same time allowing the destruction our earth, get what they deserve.

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

That paper is seriously dodgy in the way it measures the energy balance.
Look at

and follow the link to "The difference between cold fusion and cold fusion"

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Whaley,

Thanks for the link As I said I’m no expert so wouldn’t know the truth if I seen it. One thing though, from reading the fusion link it talks about nuclei acceleration. I know we have a accelerator in the UK (a small one) which has not long been opened, and isn’t there one (a big one) nearly finished in Europe. Am I right in saying that these are being used for exploring the big bang theories? Is it possible that these accelerators are really being used to produce enough nuclei acceleration to produce cold fusion? Maybe someone here can enlighten me.

The problem with the internet, and to that extent our governments’ you don’t know who to believe.

Edited to add: I don’t believe we should be building any more coal fired power stations because they are supposed to be the biggest producer of mercury into the atmosphere, and according to reports mercury is also linked to Alzheimer’s disease. Is that why our governments’ are predicting a rise in Alzheimer’s disease?

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

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The world runs on oil, period. No other substance can compete when it comes to energy density, flexibility, ease of handling, ease of transportation. If oil didn’t exist we would have to invent it.”

56 years after it was decided it was needed, the Bedford Bypass is nearing completion. The last single carriageway length of it.We have the most photogenic mayor though, always being photographed doing nothing

Thanks for the links . Unfortunately they don’t tell me anything different than what I’ve already read. As I’ve already said the internet is full of information, but one thing contradicts the other.

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

No, we should be buiding Nuclear ones!

http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev ... lmain.html

Coal is far too good to burn to make electricity, we should be keeping it to make liquid fuels by sticking hydrogen onto it!

(Hydrogen production http://article.nuclear.or.kr/jknsfile/v39/JK0390001.pdf )

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

I found this link interesting....

Interview

There is a video, but my internet connection isn't too good.

And his letter to President Obama (scroll down the page).

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

Ahh Zero Point Energy!

The theory of quantum electro-dynamics certainly sugests that it exists.

But whether or not it is accessable to us (or that we would want it to be....) is a diferent mater!

ZPE Advantages... Access to Unlimited amounts of energy!

ZPE Disadvantages... Access to Unlimited amounts of energy!

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"The road to a police state is paved with public safety legislation"

Yes Dusty, and that is exactly what Dr Brian O'Leary says if you read his interview. He wouldn’t want it himself if it was used for the wrong purpose.

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

Haven't ice chinks always fallen off the main sheet? Is this statistically unusual?

The fact that nominal rates of break-off haven’t been given leads me to believe it is quite usual and the AGW proponents are tripping over their own confirmation bias in order to get their own way.

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Views expressed are personal opinions and are not necessarily shared by the Safe Speed campaign