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As we approach the next general election, which might be less than three months away, I have a simple question.

My answer was cast simply because, at the moment, the present incumbent is empowered to deal with things but chooses "PC" and revenue over road safety.

Next year I expect I'll be voting for the new lot - for the same reason.

The Government gives the worst deal to motorists.

The other parties will offer the best deal, and then not deliver if they get elected.

There is too much easy tax to be raised.

Makes no difference which party is actually in power.

On paper the lib dems are truly awful, but I have a feeling that they would run their policies more or less honestly. I don't think we'd get the same level of dishonest psuedo-science for example.

Labour is bad, and have the track record to prove it. The most dangerous feature of labour is the lying / spinning habit.

So I voted for Labour as worst.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

AAAAAAAAAAAHH! Misread it and clicked Tory instead of Labour. Hells bells, I'd better not do that in May or whenever

To tell the truth I think they're all pretty abysmal. We have the Tories to thank for screwing things up and Labour to thank for not only failing to put it right again but for carrying on where the other lot left off. The Lib Dems seem pretty keen to do the same, so no benefit there. Fair play to the Tories though, at least they seem to be coming round to the idea that it's been a big mistake.

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Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler - Einstein

I haven't cast a vote, but I think it would be either LibDem or Labour.



Well, the price of a litre of unleaded was about 57p when the Conservatives left office. The proportion of tax in the pump price has risen from 60% to about 77% in the time since.

But do you really expect them to reduce it to that level if they regained power?

Over a period of time, but not immediately. Remember, they did reduce the top rate of income tax from 83% to 40%, and abolished the 15% "unearned" income surcharge.

I voted LibDem in this poll.

While Labour may have some seriously anti-car policies, at least they are tempered by economic reality, which the LibDems' aren't. They have also hung back from implementing some seriously anti-motorist policies such as the 50 mph single-carriageway NSL and the 50 mg drink-driving limit, both of which were live proposals in their first term.

Also the LibDems seem to be very keen on the irrational hatred of "4x4s" which is a current vogue.

My local council in Stockport is run by the LibDems and their enthusiasm for "traffic calming" and all sorts of stupid road schemes knows no bounds.

Fortunately common sense sometimes wins through

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

I voted Tory because I believe all of their current policies are nothing but soundbites to appeal to the masses, and little or no action will be taken to redress the current ailing situation should they gain power.

I believe that labour will eventually get the message that the simple 'one solution' policy is flawed and will have the guts to do something about it. The current policy over the last 12 years has been financial, not cranial, and I believe they will eventually concede that and revert to the correct policies that their advisors are probably bursting to reveal to them.

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Fixed ideas are like cramp, for instance in the foot, yet the best remedy is to step on them.

Ian

If I'd been screwing things up for the last 8 years, I don't think I could honestly expect to be trusted to come to my senses.

Labour have absolutely bought in to the message that 'the slower we go, the less accidents we have'. Unfortunately the stats don't show this.

I actually think labour are better in opposition as they are quite good at finding fault with government policy, but crap at implementing it.

I'd love to vote lib, but the greens scare me off. At the end of the day I vote for the cheapest and that is tory unfortunately.

The tories do have some sensible motoring policy.

DIY - my sentiments exactly. This lot have done the same to achieve their ends - be it motoring or local authority housing. Now I know why Labour have a party whip - it's to go with the spining top.

An interesting choice of words. I'll lay my cards on the table! I voted tory in 79/83/87 and, a little more reluctantly, in 92. But the ERM debacle/Black Wednesday, followed by Lamont saying "Je ne regrette rien" after that catastrophe was my turning point. I never voted Labour, but in 97 and 01 did not vote at all.

It's interesting to see in the polls that those people now withdrawing their support for Labour are not transferring it directly to the Tories. They are flirting with LibDem and the other minority parties. That might change on election day, as it has in the past.

But I'm interested to know why you feel the tories are an "unfortunate" choice. It's true, mistakes were made - the ERM debacle. In 97, they deserved to be booted into touch, and they were. Nothing inspired me to vote in 01. But last year, as I was watching the TV news and listening to Beverley Hughes lying to the House of Commons about being "unaware" of certain migrants having been fast tracked into Britain, I could take no more. The time had come to put the past behind us, and focus on the future. So my X will be in the Tory box on May 5 - assuming that's election day.

I see no future with Labour - just more headline grabbing initiatives, higher interest rates, higher taxes, distortion of statistics and spin.

There may not be any parties worth voting for, but there's one which is definitely worth voting against. No prizes for guessing.

Cheers
Peter

...and, like it or not, there's only ONE way to do that.

Have just seen this on a newspaper site - suppose we could add removal of humps and money making cameras to the list --

IT doesn’t matter who wins the election — there will be more policemen on the beat, NHS services will improve, OAPs will be far better off, working mums will get more help for nursery care, workers will get longer holidays and everything in the garden will be rosy.

How do I know all this? Because the three main parties tell me so.

They can’t all be lying, can they?

As election day aproaches - the crap heap rises and crap on the ritous

That last one wasn't down to the date.
Found this item on another motoring site on net - could some councils be trying to give their party a helping hand -

30/03/2005
Bromley Council Blocks Speed Cameras
Bromley Council has been told to erect 18 traps at accident hotspots which have been identified by Transport for London (TfL). BUT the proposal has been blocked by the conservative council saying that speed cameras are being used to 'milk motorists' out of money.

Councillor George Taylor, said that warning signs that flashed when motorists were speeding would be just as effective as speed cameras
Is this official Tory policy?

Looks like it is , and they don't like road humps either --

http://www.conservatives.com/tile.do?de ... _id=120391

And was Brunstrun reading the tories --http://www.conservatives.com/tile.do?def=news.story.page&obj_id=119517

if they get in and keep their promises - or is it just sales pitch??

Anyone fancy voting for the Motorists' Liberation Front

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

Although the Lib Dems pander to the Green/anti-car lobby even more than Labour, Labour are the party most likely to make the speed camera problem worse.

It's down to the crafty and deceitful way in which they operate. They "devolve" expenditure on public services to local government in order to make their figures look better. In turn, Local Government, not wanting to put up Council Tax too much, is forced to look at other ways of generating income. Speed Camera and Parking fines are two very convenient ways of doing this.

Bromley is a very nasty, self-centered little borough... what I class as 'leafy suburban hell'. Naturally most Thatcherites think it's the bees knees, as it's rife with middle-management mums and dads buying second homes to secure favoured schools. It's also the last bastion of 'I'm alright Jack' True Blue-ism in the London area.

Doesn't anyone on this site get a warm fuzzy feeling that their taxes might go to help the less fortunate, regardless of whether they come from this country? Or feel that despite its flaws the NHS is worth it?

Voting Tory practically guarantees the destruction of the NHS for the selfish realisation of a miniscule tax-cut. I'm distraught that any sane person would consider it.

Tc.