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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 14:22 
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The last two posts by Valle Crucis add nothing to the discussion and twist the meaning of the posts quoted.

In view of this disruptive activity I am suspending Valle Crucis' account with immediate effect and the admin team will consider what further action to take.

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Valle Crucis wrote:
Mole wrote:
But as far as "grasping" commuters go - surely they get cheaper houses and then just spend more on commuting?


Yes, it's completely pointless, isn't it? Worse than pointless, because they
do the locals down in the villages they live in by forcing up house prices and
do the locals down in the towns where they work by forcing down wages! And
they do the taxpayers down by asking for bailouts for wider roads. That's
where greed gets us - nowhere but a traffic jam.

But how can we get some altruism into that equation as well? Newbury
showed that more roads don't work, so that's out of the frame.


No, I'm not sure it's completely pointless. It's "swings & roundabouts". I can either spend a lot of money on a central city location and not much money on commuting, or I can spend less money on a less central dwelling and more money on commuting. If they lived out-of-town and commuted on public transport, they wouldn't cause road congestion at all - would that be OK?

I think the main cause of the problem with affordable houses in nice rural places like this is because people buy second homes and then don't live in them.


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Big Tone wrote:
Well, since the taxes we all pay these days bears absolutely no resemblance anymore to what any of us are using, why not just pile all the taxes together, (using the KISS principle), and levy them according to your income and just call it taxation.

We seem to have a million taxes, and taxes on our taxes, and a tax on taxes of the tax etc. etc...

But it all ends up with the chancellor anyway so :?

I'm sure it could be made simpler.

Suggestions on a postcard please to A. Darling, 11 DownKerching Street.. :hehe:


My personal bugbear is the VAT on Fuel Duty. So fuel duty is a tax, right. And then they add 17.5% on top? Whichever whitehall mandarin thought that up must have been laughing their head off.

I once saw a proposal for a new tax return - it may have been in jest but you decide. It went something like this:

Total Income:
Write your total income for the tax year in Box A.

Tax payment:
Please send a cheque for the amount in Box A.





oh, and on the subject of car sharing, I do it as much as I possibly can. It adds up to about 15% of my annual business mileage - and I claim the extra 5p per passenger per mile on my trips, so it pays me to keep accurate records. 15% isn't very much though, and I have to work at that. The solution is obviously that we all need to have larger cars and employ chauffeurs. Automatically enabling us to use HO lanes, and also reducing the unemployment lines. I believe this is also known as "Government Car Policy"?

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handy wrote:

oh, and on the subject of car sharing, I do it as much as I possibly can. It adds up to about 15% of my annual business mileage - and I claim the extra 5p per passenger per mile on my trips, so it pays me to keep accurate records. 15% isn't very much though, and I have to work at that. The solution is obviously that we all need to have larger cars and employ chauffeurs. Automatically enabling us to use HO lanes, and also reducing the unemployment lines. I believe this is also known as "Government Car Policy"?


I'm sceptical of the value of car-share lanes personally, though part of my job is to promote car-sharing as a form of 'sustainable' transport. So I applaud your efforts here Handy. I would even go so far as to say that 15% should be plenty, if everyone on the roads (who could) shared for 15% of their journeys, congestion and the knock on effects would be significantly reduced.


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Irritatingly while TPTB are promoting car sharing, I would hazard a guess that a lot of companys' vehicle insurance forbids the carrying of non-employees.
I know mine does, so even if I could find someone that wanted to travel from Sherborne to Wimborne at the crack of dawn and back at 1700 ish(on the days I'm not going somewhere else), I wouldn't be allowed to take them.


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