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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 15:55 
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I have just heard Peter Hain's explanation of how he came to not declare £100K of funding towards his Labour deputy leadership campaign. If we ignore the obvious question as to why standing for this non-job costs so much, then his position indicates that he might support a more flexible approach to motoring convictions.

He is claiming that he was so preoccupied with other matters that he inadvertently forgot that he was breaking the law and that thus he is not resonsible and should be let off. Just convert this to a speeding offence and see what you get.

(OK, this is a broad paraphrasing of the situation, but you see what I mean.)

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Obviously this is no relation to Peter "Young Liberal" Hain, the firebrand radical of the 1970s.

:roll: :D

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You are being much too judgemental here. I have lost count of the number of times someone has given me £100,000 and I have then completely forgotten about it - I'm sure you have done the same.
Give the poor perma-tanned s*d a break!

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Oh look. Another lying, self-serving Labour minister.

What happened to politicians being role models who led by example and wanted to make the country a better place through inspiration and honesty? We are perfectly entitled to expect that, it's a democracy FFS, and yet the very idea would have most people these days in fits of disdainful laughter. It seems impossible to be too cynical. What would the likes of Churchill have thought of it all?

Is it just going to get worse and worse? Is there anything we can do to stop (or preferably reverse) it?

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I heard someone else saying he only broke the rules, not the law :roll:

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Is it just going to get worse and worse? Is there anything we can do to stop (or preferably reverse) it?


Yes!

It just takes a leap out of the box.

What we have to do is shatter the old adage "It doesnt matter who you vote for, the government always gets in"

I'm not going to tell you who to vote for. Just who NOT to vote for!

At the next election (Local/national/euro) Ignore the Lib/Lab/Con candidate and vote for one of the others. I have my own choice but Ultimatly I dont mind who anybody else votes for as long as it isnt the LibLabCon!

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Apparently you pay your money into a "THINK TANK" and they then pass it on to a labour minister who is so busy he forgets to report a £103,000 donation to pay for his election campaign.
If he was so busy, what was he doing trying for yet another job - one which warrants spending £103,000 on?

I'm thinking of having a THINK TANK take the blame for my next speeding ticket, by simply nominating them on the S172, and saying I forgot it was me that was driving, as I was so busy lighting up a cigarette, and talking on my mobile phone - after all, talking on your mobile is proved to be distracting!!! :)

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bombus wrote:
What happened to politicians being role models who led by example and wanted to make the country a better place through inspiration and honesty?


You are presumably talking about a past time you spent on another planet?


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bombus wrote:
Is it just going to get worse and worse?


Thing is, its probably not actually getting worse.

But just like everything, human nature is to perceive it is so.


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:trolls:

(I'd expect someone who liked cameras and hated cars to have a pretty distorted, rose-tinted view of the current regime.)

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bombus wrote:
:trolls:

(I'd expect someone who liked cameras and hated cars to have a pretty distorted, rose-tinted view of the current regime.)


Come on then bombus, when were the politicos all honest?


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weepej wrote:
bombus wrote:
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(I'd expect someone who liked cameras and hated cars to have a pretty distorted, rose-tinted view of the current regime.)


Come on then bombus, when were the politicos all honest?


When they resigned if something went badly wrong under their watch. Now the blighters can't even be arsed to resign when THEY do something wrong!

But of course, in the olden days, Peter Hain was an upright, upstanding vandal of cricket pitches and the like. And he was totally exonerated of ANY involvement with the bank robbery, wasn't he? :D

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