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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 16:10 
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mmltonge wrote:
Got to say, the guy is pathetic "it isn't possible to sit in the car while it warms up, it's too cold" - my goodness man, get some balls and don't be such a wuss.


I quite agree with you. In any case it would be better to warm the engine up at a fast idle, rather than leaving it to its own devices.

So far as I'm aware it has for many years been an offence to leave the engine running in an unattended vehicle, and I've always believed this to be on safety grounds, rather than concerns about the increased risk of the vehicle being stolen.

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Firstly on this one the BiB was right because the eng. was running (although the car was locked) in an unattended vehicle on the public highway which is illegal.

Was it not possible to sit in the car for 5 or 10 minutes to de-ice the windows as (the majority) of modern cars now warm up very quickly?

I would have taken the officers advice on this and not tried to defend my corner as he was obviously in a no win position.

Secondly if the car was stolen he would then expect the police to do their best to recover said car and no doubt if they didn,t, then they would be blamed for not doing their job correctly.



But he was still silly. Car warm up fairly quickly these days. I put on fleecy gloves .. with matching hat und scarf.. und I wear right sassy pair of woolly tights with fur lined boots (Am Puss in Boots :yikes:) He should buy a pair of Long Johns - thermal ones from Damart.. (they also come in suitably wussy colours :lol:) I also fill up hot water bottle (in fleecey cover) to hold whilst I sit in car whilst it warm up for me too if car left out und not put in garage as sometimes in this family - grrrrrrrrrr! - my car should be called "Joseph" as in "no room at the inn!".

If he lippy to officer - he should have just apologised.. said he did not realise as his brass monkey bits und bobs were frozen solid anyway. .


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TripleS wrote:
So far as I'm aware it has for many years been an offence to leave the engine running in an unattended vehicle, and I've always believed this to be on safety grounds, rather than concerns about the increased risk of the vehicle being stolen.


That's what I thought, but it appears it's specifically to do with not making it easy for people to drive off.

Difficult for the law, because technically if you find a car on the road and its unlocked with keys in it then its not actually theft to take it (or its very hard to prove it was theft).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWOC


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Yeah, a pain ain't it.
I like the US system, Grand Theft Auto. 10 to 30 isn't it ?
Mind you, they can try to nick mine while it's warming-up in the morning (diesels take so long, but use less fuel doing it than petrols)....but I think the Rottweiler in the back may not like being driven away without me being there.
Be a b'stard if the guy was torn apart....I'd miss the dog.


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bootie3367 wrote:
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Yokel wrote:
Stormin wrote:
Was it not possible to sit in the car for 5 or 10 minutes to de-ice the windows as (the majority) of modern cars now warm up very quickly?


One of the few things I dislike about my wife's car (a diesel Zafira) is that it mists up inside at the drop of a hat and takes ages to demist. Is this a common problem with this vehicle, or is ours just a duff specimen?

I'm afraid it looks as though you might have duff specimen. We had our Zafira for 5 years from new and never did we have that problem. Could be that any residual moisture from wet feet has soaked into and underneath the carpets and the foam noise insulation has soaked it up giving the carpets the appearance of being dry, soon as you get in and turn the heat up it leaves the foam and heads straight to the windows.

Does it have aircon? If so, wind the heat up and put the aircon on, even when it's cold. Aircon dehumidifies as well as cools.


Yes good answer, plus it gives the aircon a good workout and gets rid of any potential bugs inherent in the systems.


Thanks for the advice, chaps - much appreciated. Wet boots and wet Springers may well be the root of the problem (one of the perils of rural life).
Happy New Year! :)

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Thanks for the advice, chaps - much appreciated. Wet boots and wet Springers may well be the root of the problem (one of the perils of rural life).
Happy New Year! :)


Sounds like problem ,if you're not loosing coolant (as in heater rad leaking and steaming up inside ) ---after I got my latest found out that door seals was a common problem -result wet carpets - and lots of steaming till cured.

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hairyben wrote:
If it's what I'm thinking it probably is, a remote start alarm sys, they're illegal in this country anyway. Totally secure though, if an attempt is made to enter the car not via the fob the engine shuts off and immobilises & alarm goes off. Although, it won't stop the element from trying I guess...


Hmmmmm.... I'm sure a chap on my car forum fitted one of them to his.....

I've got a perfect excuse with my work vans: we carry indoor plants, so van must be at least 12 deg C before we load up!


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