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Not very good but hey, it's been about 25 years :)


I thought he only died about 4 years ago - I didn't know he was on here though :D

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Although thinking about it, perhaps if he was here he'd be welcomed by some members for his views - and actions - on ethnic cleansing
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Not very good but hey, it's been about 25 years :)


I thought he only died about 4 years ago - I didn't know he was on here though :D

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Although thinking about it, perhaps if he was here he'd be welcomed by some members for his views - and actions - on ethnic cleansing
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Now that IS offensive!

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Not very good but hey, it's been about 25 years :)


I thought he only died about 4 years ago - I didn't know he was on here though :D

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Although thinking about it, perhaps if he was here he'd be welcomed by some members for his views - and actions - on ethnic cleansing
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Now that IS offensive!

You wait - they'll start mentioning Nazis and holocaust soon and accuse you of being racist... :roll:

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Are you, as an incensed 'minority', actually planning to DO anything?

This has been repeated several times. Well, what do you suggest? Something like the Islamic men who decided that something needed to be done and purchased the bottled gas, petrol...

No, we debate on here, try to affect public opinion by various means and try to get laws changed. We ARE doing something in one small area of life. There are lots of other small pressure groups working away on some of our other moans. Very few individuals can actually bring about social change and those that do often end up dead, killed by people who felt that they "had to do something".

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It is perhaps worth noting that Idi Amin Dada was actually a Muzzie!

Which is why he ended his days well cared for in Saudi! (and without anybody in the, so called, "International community" batting any more than a token eye!)

He was responsible for the deaths of over 250,000 Uganden Christians!

"They are not like us! They are not our friends!"

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BottyBurp wrote:
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handy wrote:
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Not very good but hey, it's been about 25 years :)


I thought he only died about 4 years ago - I didn't know he was on here though :D

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Although thinking about it, perhaps if he was here he'd be welcomed by some members for his views - and actions - on ethnic cleansing
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Now that IS offensive!

You wait - they'll start mentioning Nazis and holocaust soon and accuse you of being racist... :roll:


Ahhh well ive already had all this crap from certain individuals on that other site...PeckerHeads or whatever its now called.

It seems that some people keep falling into the trap of using the race word ( for the pc afflicted its "ethnic origin" :roll: ....) to attack anyone who's views get mistaken for patriotism or being a little nationalistic.
Im as far from being a genocidal lunatic wanting to ethnically cleanse people as its possible to be, no, i dont care what colour or creed you are, or what you believe in, just dont try and foist it off on me or change things to suit yourself.
In short, ive no truck with any other race of people, why should i have?
One of the nicest guys i ever met (i worked with for a while) was an asian called "Taj" for short ( i cant pronounce his name! :D) and i liked him immensely, he kept nicking my flashlight.... :lol:
I find it tiresome and pathetic that i should have to justify and explain my views only to people who are most likely to be white in the first place. That tells me the problem is with them, not with me or the different races; theyre the ones looking for a fight all the time, pushing off their adopted "Pc" prejudices on folks. The irony there is that under PC doctrines youre not supposed to offend anyone, yet they see fit to do it all the time and go on the attack at the drop of a suspicious sounding ( to them ) word...like "blackspot". :roll: Thats what theyve brought us to with "PC".
So no, i dont hate anyone, but then i shouldnt have to say it, should i?
Thats PC for you.

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Are you so certain of it that youd discuss "sensitive" or Labour "tabooed" subjects such as race or religion, sexual orientation etc?
I reckon youd print it but youd not remain free for too long as this board like others is subjected to government/authority scrutiny by the tiny willied minions who do their nasty work for them.


There are two types (in my opinion) of "PC". There is the scourge of all things sensible, "political correctness", which incidentally predates the current Labour government, and there is another "backronym", less currently well known but deserving of an effort to save the PC initials from total loss. That's "Polite & Courteous".



But surely they are the same thing as a dictionary defines "courteous" as "polite and considerate in manner" and "polite" as showing a great regard for others in terms of speech, manners, behaviour and courteous :wink: It's also "cultivated/refined/polished/elegant"


Unfortunately, we don't seem to be teaching this to our young as well as our parents perhaps taught us at the time perhaps. I do try to ensure our kids respect others and show decent calm courtesy towards others all the same. My own mother used to tell me to "treat other people as you expect yourself to be treated." Which basically means respect and courtesy usually begets respect an courtesy :wink:

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I believe in my time on this board, race, or more accurately racism HAS been discussed at some length, and done quite politely; a "grown up discussion", if sometimes heated.




I think that's the nice thing about most posting to this site. Most of us refrain from vulgar abuse.


Admittedly banter can be a "thin line" at times as it depends on individual sense of humour at times.


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Religion has not been discussed much, but then if no-one is interested in the discussion and it doesn't come up, that's not the same as a taboo.




Well - this family are Roman Catholics :wink: We don't care if someone does not approve either. We are not "scientologists" but even so - to each their own so long as they respect the others choice of religion or agnosticism/atheism. Going to a church or a Mosque/Synagogue/Temple does not mean a nice "courteous God-fearing" person either as zealots prove by their actions across the centuries. A really "good" person does consider other people besides him/herself. But as Bert Brecht pondered in his play "Good Person of Sezhuan" whereby the lead character Sheng Teh/Shui Tah was a kind of "Jekyll/Hyde" character - there is no such thing as a "wholly good person" as there's always a cost to someone else :wink: (Play written in Brecht's hey-day. I read this play when I was learning German at the Goethe Institut. I studied the lingo because I needed to understand my wife whose lingo seems to waver between High German and her native "Appenzeller" Schwyzer dialect. But she uses High German predominantly to the kids anyway. You bring up a child to be naturally bi-lingual if they associate one language with one parent and the other one with the other parent. In our case - my kids use English when they speak to me and German when they speak to Wildy. If in company - we use the language of our guests - usually English :wink:)


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Sexual orientation? Again, as far as I can recall, not been discussed but has never been banned. I'd go so far as to suspect that some of the posters on here prefer relations with men rather than women, but as it's not apposite to the subject matter it hasn't been discussed. If you wish to raise these subjects, as long as you can keep it as an adult discussion, and remain polite and courteous, I would not expect anyone to have a problem with it.


I love one woman - Wildy. I had flings before I met her - but once I met her? I fell for her. She teased me a bit in that she played "hard to get but still danced in my sights" :lol:

She's my soul mate/confidante/lover/wife and my equal partner in our marriage. How it should be.

But then this is how it should be if preferences are towards same sex. Lot of my patients have had a number of partners. Not their sexual preferences at fault but perhaps promiscuous life style without precautions as regards the HIV lurgy patients I see.

But as people? Human beings? I like them and feel I fail them if I cannot give them a longer positive quality of life before the inevitable bites them. At this point I try to keep their dignity whilst at the same time fighting with them for each breath they take and feeling genuinely saddened when I lose them.

I can only as a medic stress again..

it does not matter how many folk you sleep with. What matters is SAFE SEX! Use condoms. Take each available precaution. Try to keep faithful to one partner. You may find a better and more satisfying life if you settle with a steady soul-mate of whatever sexual preference

But - whilst I will understand other people as best I can. My own choice in my own lifestyle revolves around my Wildy :neko: and the fruits of our marriage and our joint decisions as equal partners.



As for extreme religious nutters. Not religion. More a psychopathic desire to harm others. But perhaps delusion "justifying atrocity in the name of religion" In this instance - we are perhaps too pee-cee in attributing to a religious cause instead of the insanity it really is. :roll:

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No more Andy for a week! Who's going to be the voice of unreason now? He he :D (I'm sure he'll forgive me) :wink:

I'm uncomfortable with "it does not matter how many folk you sleep with", as a medic or not. As we know, protection isn't 100%, whether catching or preventing something.

I've often thought I was born 50 years too late but I think you loose something very special by spreading it around, (both men and women).

I was a virgin until I was 21, something which I would never have admitted many years ago but there is absolutely nothing wrong with waiting for the right one. Not agreeing/disagreeing with anyone here now, just would like to put forward my angle. I even slept with girls without doing anything many times. You see girls, not all men are lead by their todger. They probably thought I was gay, or a poof as it was known then.

When AIDS became big news I remember many of my friends fretting, big time, whereas I didn't at all.

My mother was very Victorian. If I had got into any sort of trouble I would have felt I'd bought shame to our home. Something todays generation don't seem to know much about.

I confess I did become a slapper in recent years for a while, (male menopause, what's the point of life, my job, depression from losing my brother - who knows?), but I rebooted my morals and soon got back on track again. There's a difference between pleasure and happiness and I'm glad that I didn't hurt anyone; they knew what the score was, so to speak. (I had the body of a Greek god at the time, so it wasn't all one way) :puke: I'm not too bad even now, for a wrinkly, so I'm told. I may put my pic in the gallery.

All this did confirm what I knew, however, which was that there's nothing quite like being in a loving committed relationship with everything you have just said Moggie. I'm quite envious really, it's everything I wanted, but as my dear ole' mum always said, you have to count your blessings and I have many.

And on that note, I'll say have a good weekend and I'll try and bore you again next week... :roll:

PS. Did I drift? Have we drifted? I've prattled that much I've forgot what the subject was :typing:

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