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Hi guys, new member, new driver.

Need some help to reduce the worry im currently suffering from though! I was driving home last night and came off a 40mph road onto a 30mph. For some silly reason (even though i pass this camera whenever i go to or come back from my girlfriends) as i was coming up to the camera, i was thinking "im below 40 im fine".

Now I know I wasnt doing 40 mph, it was more around the 36-38 mark I think (the panic as i was in the vacinity of the camera set in and made me lose my concentration for a second meaning I didnt take in the exact reading on my speedo).

After I had passed the camera a number of different thoughts started going through my head, I dont recall seeing a flash, but also dont recall looking in my rear view after the camera, would I have still seen the flash looking at the road ahead?

My mother has yet to register the vehicle in her name (we bought the car from my aunt who is still the registered keeper as the forms have not been sent off yet but will be done today!) so what effect does this have on the 14 day rule?

I'm really worried as I've only been driving since last Wednesday and don't want any points on my licence!

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Paul

The 14 day rule is to get the paperwork to the registered keeper of record, your aunt.

I think you may have got away with it, since you would almost certainly notice the double flash at night, and if your speedo was indicating 38 your true speed could well have been below the limit+10%+2mph guideline prosecution threshold, though there is no obligation for the authorities to stick to this.

As I'm sure you are aware, you have to be extra careful as a new driver, since you only need 6 points for a re-sit!

sit tight and see what happens.

your aunt will have a NIP within 14 days if you were flashed.

14day rule doesn't apply unless your aunt doesn't recieve it within 14 days.

if you get one it will go something like this.

0 +!4 days NIP to your aunt.

further 28 days - she replys saying she sold the car to your mother.

couple of weeks then your mother will get an NIP.

further 28 days - she replies naming you.

couple of weeks then you have your very own NIP which you must reply to within 28 days.

bear in mind that they lay papers before the court within 6 months. I reckon all that correspondance will take 5 months. I presume you'll ask to see the photos too.

I don't think you need to panic.

not strictly true - it has to be sent out within 14 days of the alleged offence. If it is sent second class, and takes a further 3 days to arrive, it's still within the 14 day period.

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I don't think thats right, wasn't that the issue with them not sending it recorded, there was no way to prove whether or not it had arrived within 14 days.

It has to be sent 1st class, if it's sent 2nd class it hasn't been served correctly even if it arrives within the 14 days.

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Home Office guidelines suggest it should be sent recorded delivery to prove receipt of the NIP by the RK.
Of course this does not sit well with organisations striving to maximise their profit, so it will be entrusted to bog standard post, thus saving a few pence per NIP.

I'm told that some people claim not to have received their NIPs - and I can quite believe it - I send out a lot of business mail, and around 1-2 items go missing every month.

Last week, I had a packet I had sent recorded delivery delivered back to me 4 days later - minus the address label, and it had been opened and resealed - but not by the Post Office who put them in a special plastic bag if this occurs!
The camera partnerships will be right at home with this level of "service" as they employ the same calibre of staff!

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I think that could be considered pretty insulting to postal workers mate!

I hope they feel prompted to do something about their few colleagues who think it's OK to open and steal from the mail then.

The trouble is if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys!
Our local Post Office is superb - and so was our previous postman, but the present one delivers around 9.30 - 10.00 - and it takes the occupants of our small estate until lunchtime before we deliver each others post to the right addresses!

Unless something is worth more than £20, I have given up reporting delayed items - if they end up lost instead of late, you have to wait 15 working days, then submit a form, and 4 weeks later you get an insulting letter suggesting you should address it clearly, and wrap it well so the packaging does not succumb to the wear and tear of modern mechanised mail sorting!

FINALLY a week later, some market research bint telephones and asks you if you would answer some questions about the recent complaint you made... namely was it dealt with efficiently - was the person you telephoned polite - was the complaint sorted out....
I refuse to take part anymore!!!

So if your NIP is in the post... fingers crossed - they dont care, because it's as good as money in the bank to the partnerships!

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Incorrect,

It has to be posted so that it is served within 14 days. The latest they can post with first class stamp is on the 13th day.

If it is posted with a second class stamp then it has not been served.

If posted within 14 days by first class then it has deemed to have been served but if you can prove that it wasn't then they then the case fails.

Robin - my father is an old time postman / postal officer - he doesn't trust the
postal service through knowledge of the current system . Now why would that be ???

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