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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 23:16 
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/mid/6288012.stm

Ever thought of running your car on methane?

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Garlic 'may cut cow flatulence'
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Pull the udder one - cows can produce 500 litres of gas a day

Scientists in Wales tackling the impact flatulent cows and sheep have on global warming may have an answer - putting garlic in their food.

Experts claim cows are responsible for about 3% of Britain's greenhouse gases.

But initial results from the start of the three-year study show that feed containing garlic could cut the amount of gas produced by up to 50%.

The Aberystwyth research team is testing if this taints milk or meat - and gives the animals bad breath.

The study is being led by scientists at the University of Wales, Aberystwyth, alongside colleagues at Bangor and Reading universities.

In Aberystwyth, researchers are measuring the amount of methane and nitrogen produced by sheep by housing them in a plastic portable tent.

Project leader Professor Jamie Newbold said new types of feed from plant extracts, and grass with a higher sugar content, were being developed to help solve the problem.

"Initial results show that extracts of garlic compound could reduce the amount of methane produced by the animals by 50%," he said.

"Garlic directly attacks the organisms in the gut that produce methane."

He added that tests were also being carried out to see if the garlic gave the animals bad breath and more specifically if it could taint milk or meat.

But he joked that this might be "good for the French market".

Experts consider cows the biggest single source of methane - a gas 23 times more potent than carbon dioxide when it comes to global warming.

The average dairy cow is capable of producing up to 500 litres of the gas every day, mostly through belching.

Reduce that, claim the experts, and farming could not only be made greener and more efficient, but it could also help Britain achieve its commitments under the Kyoto agreement.

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Gas produced by sheep is also being measured

A spokeswoman for the Department for Food, the Environment and Rural Affairs (Defra) said recent research suggested that "substantial methane reductions" could be achieved by changes to animals' feed.

Prof Newbold explained that cattle and sheep were responsible for about 30% of methane emissions in the UK.

In Wales, they produced nearly double that - which amounts to 5% of Wales's greenhouse gases.

He said the work commissioned by Defra, worth some £750,000, had unified a number of schemes looking into flatulent animals.

The project also involves Aberystwyth's Institute of Grassland and Environmental Research and environmental specialists Adas.

Seems like you should first get yourself a cow!

I feel much more relaxed now about being forced to drive from Bowness to Newby Bridge at 20 mph because there was a marathon being run - even though I didn't see a single runner!
I had worried and suffered several sleepless nights about the effect it had had on my carbon footprint! :shock:

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Cow Tax Mr Brown


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ECONOMIC MODEL EXPLAINED WITH COWS

SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
You give one to your neighbour.

COMMUNISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and gives you some milk.

FASCISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and sells you some milk.

NAZISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and shoots you.

BUREAUCRATISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other, and then throws the milk away.

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows.
You sell them and retire on the income.

SURREALISM
You have two giraffes.
The government requires you to take harmonica lessons

AN AMERICAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows.
Later, you hire a consultant to analyse why the cow has dropped dead.

ENRON VENTURE CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows.

The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island Company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company.

The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more.
You sell one cow to buy a new president of the United States, leaving you with nine cows.
No balance sheet provided with the release.
The public then buys your bull.

THE ANDERSEN MODEL
You have two cows.
You shred them.

A FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You go on strike, organise a riot, and block the roads, because you want three cows.

A JAPANESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk.
You then create a clever cow cartoon image called 'Cowkimon' and market it worldwide.

A GERMAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You re-engineer them so they live for 100 years, eat once a month, and milk themselves.

AN ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows, but you don't know where they are.
You decide to have lunch.

A RUSSIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You count them and learn you have five cows.
You count them again and learn you have 42 cows.
You count them again and learn you have 2 cows.
You stop counting cows and open another bottle of vodka.

A SWISS CORPORATION
You have 5000 cows. None of them belong to you.
You charge the owners for storing them.

A CHINESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You have 300 people milking them.
You claim that you have full employment, and high bovine productivity.
You arrest the newsman who reported the real situation.

AN INDIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You worship them.

A BRITISH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
Both are mad.

AN IRAQI CORPORATION
Everyone thinks you have lots of cows.
You tell them that you have none.
No-one believes you, so they bomb the **** out of you and invade your country.
You still have no cows, but at least now you are part of a democracy.

A NEW ZEALAND CORPORATION
You have two cows.
The one on the left looks very attractive.

AN AUSTRALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
Business seems pretty good.
You close the office and go for a few beers to celebrate.


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Theyre at it again! Interfering!

How do they know that the lack of methane wont create some other problems, like dropping off the numbers of krill?

Why dont they leave things alone? Idiots, they cant save the world, they cant even look after themselves!!

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'Experts' eh? In cow emissions you say? What would that pay? You say all I have to do is scare-monger, and people will pay me to keep scare-mongering and quote me in the press, for fame and riches?

I'm in!


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Ernest Marsh wrote:
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Gas produced by sheep is also being measured

I'm just trying to imagine the logistics required to actually do that scientifically.

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I'm just trying to imagine the logistics required to actually do that scientifically.

I was worried that the report originated in Wales! :shock:
The mind boggles!

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This was on TV last night, to measure the amount of gas the animals put out, they were put in a room which was then sealed, gas samples were then taken from outside the room.

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Did they time how long it took the animal so suffocate in its own noxious vapours?


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Did they time how long it took the animal so suffocate in its own noxious vapours?


I was thinking the same thing when watching the program.

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Theres no escape from the ecoleftist mithering.

Just as I started to relax becuse the heat was off my car and on the cows I learn that the reason there are so many cows is to keep me in Fillet Mignon!!!!!!! so it's still my fault.

You see not only do I have two cars but I also eat meat, this is a bad thing and I must be punished....i mean educated.


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Its okay CE, just confess, do atonement and you can still enter the kingdom of Gaia!


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Its okay CE, just confess, do atonement and you can still enter the kingdom of Gaia!


errr... Gaia isn't a kingdom, it's Earth. So we're already there. (If you believe Lovelock that is)!

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I look at it like this, 4x4's are better than cows.....less emissions, logical conclusion, ditch the cows and everyone buy a 4x4.

Saving the planet the easy way. I really should patent these ideas........ :)

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handy wrote:
RobinXe wrote:
Its okay CE, just confess, do atonement and you can still enter the kingdom of Gaia!


errr... Gaia isn't a kingdom, it's Earth. So we're already there. (If you believe Lovelock that is)!


Sorry that you missed the parallels I was drawing between the Church of Green and Catholicism.

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I look at it like this, 4x4's are better than cows.....less emissions, logical conclusion, ditch the cows and everyone buy a 4x4.

Saving the planet the easy way. I really should patent these ideas........


4x4s are more comfortable than cows too, though you can't beat leather upholstery!


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RobinXe wrote:
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Its okay CE, just confess, do atonement and you can still enter the kingdom of Gaia!


errr... Gaia isn't a kingdom, it's Earth. So we're already there. (If you believe Lovelock that is)!


Sorry that you missed the parallels I was drawing between the Church of Green and Catholicism.


I spotted the parallel, but didn't think it was a very good one. It would be equivalent to a Catholic dieing and going to church (I know some people think they are equally as bad as each other).

I would have thought "do atonement and you can still be smug and when you die, happily decompose and return your smugly decaying body to the earth" would work better. As long as the word smug was in there somewhere.

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DeltaF wrote:
I look at it like this, 4x4's are better than cows.....less emissions, logical conclusion, ditch the cows and everyone buy a 4x4.

Saving the planet the easy way. I really should patent these ideas........ :)

I'll vote for this when someone manages to make a decent burger out of a 4x4 :)


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I'll vote for this when someone manages to make a decent burger out of a 4x4 :)


And how about a double cheese /bacon /burger ---suspect we might need an old metro(and a slice of cheese _) :roll:

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Someone should measure the gas coming out of Westminster. That plus the cows most probably about 99% of our gas output.


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SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
You give one to your neighbour.


You're rich because you have four cows and 'the workers' have none.

The socialist government taxes the rich at 50% and takes two of your cows to share amongst 'the workers'.

The workers don't realise that you worked hard for those cows and that nobody gave them to you. They eat their cows.

You're rich because you have two cows and the workers have none.

The socialist government taxes the rich at 50% and takes one of your cows to share amongst 'the workers'...............


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