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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 15:37 
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When will these get published for each county? Considering it is January there should be no reason not to publich preliminary figures now. Staffs SCP still haven't put 2003's figures on their website, probably because they show a 40% increase in fatalities on the previous year. :oops:


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When will these get published for each county? Considering it is January there should be no reason not to publich preliminary figures now. Staffs SCP still haven't put 2003's figures on their website, probably because they show a 40% increase in fatalities on the previous year. :oops:


Official DfT figures will be published in June. About 3-4 months of the delay may be justifiable.

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Sorry Paul, I would accept only one months delay, and that would be pushing it.
In this day and age of computing everything, they should be able to have the RAW data out within a week.
They can then publish their studied stats later, but this much delayed procedure makes me thing of how much spin they can put on the figures.

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Sorry Paul, I would accept only one months delay, and that would be pushing it.
In this day and age of computing everything, they should be able to have the RAW data out within a week.
They can then publish their studied stats later, but this much delayed procedure makes me thing of how much spin they can put on the figures.


Well, for a start the fatalities figure must include folk that die within 30 days of the crash, so we can't even know the 2004 fatalities until 30th January 2005.

There's also a reporting system (figures gathered from around the country) and an audit system (ensuring that the figures meet the defintions), then a report has to be prepared and approved before publication.

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County's road deaths at six-year low


January 1, 2005 06:29


By Danielle Nuttall

THE number of people killed on Suffolk's roads during the past 12 months was the lowest for six years, it has been revealed.

A total of 43 people died in road traffic accidents last year, compared to 60 in 2003 - the lowest figure since 1998 in which 24 people were killed.

The figures were revealed yesterday as members of Suffolk Police Authority consider a proposal to extend the Suffolk Safety Camera Partnership, which manages the county's speed cameras, until 2007 to further reduce accidents.

Police and road safety bosses said they were pleased with the reduction in road deaths, but warned motorists not to become complacent.

A spokesman for Suffolk police said: “The figure for last year is less than the year before, but we have to remember more than 40 people lost their lives on Suffolk's roads.

“In the year ahead our aim will be to continue to improve road safety by working with our partners to reduce road traffic collisions which result in death or serious injury.

“The motoring public has obviously got its part to play by obeying speed limits, not drinking and driving, ensuring vehicles are road worthy and staying alert on the roads of the county.”

Peter Monk, county councillor and portfolio holder for public protection, added: “It's good news, but 43 is 43 too many. I'm disappointed we did see a marked increase at the end of the year as we came up to the Christmas holiday.

“My message to everybody going into the New Year is to be vigilant. The county council has done all it could in the last year and I aim to ensure it does so in 2005.

“The biggest contributory factor to accidents is inappropriate speed. Inappropriate speed does kill and injure. I don't want anybody to be part of those statistics.”

Mr Monk said accidents involving drivers who were under the influence of drugs was also a growing problem.

“During the course of the year, across the country, drugs have been a contributory factor to accidents and are beginning to rival drink-driving,” he warned.

The Suffolk Safety Camera Partnership was set up in conjunction with the county council at the beginning of 2003 for an initial period of two years.

It was formed in an effort to reduce the number of road accidents and during 2003/04 saw a 42% reduction in all injury collisions at camera sites, while collisions involving people killed or seriously injured fell by 68%.

Suffolk Police Authority has been asked to consider extending the existing project until March 31, 2007, and will meet on January 7 to discuss the proposal.

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http://www.eadt.co.uk/content/news/stor ... 3A17%3A880

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Oh, and don't the French issue their national statistics for the preceding year in January?

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A total of 43 people died in road traffic accidents last year, compared to 60 in 2003 - the lowest figure since 1998 in which 24 people were killed.

Hooray for cameras! They've increased deaths by 45% since 1998, let's write a fantastic crowing article about the amazing work they're doing!

If the above quote isn't the best example of using regression to the mean to show a non-existant benefit, then I don't know what is.

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It doesn't matter what the result is, you will see:

1) [some figure] has gone down - the cameras are working!

2) [some figure] has gone up - we need more cameras!


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