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Big Rod = jr135?

I have come across BR on PH; he has asked me to tell you that he is not JR.

sorry - I can't resist...

Is BR on PH a Con Rod?

How logical is it to go onto C+ and say 'my work there is done'?

It belies your aim from the start.

I wish it was...

Was it you who said he got 'severely fatigued' when he had to slow to 40 on a motorway, then magically unfatigued once the reduction ended? If it wasn't you it was another of the occasional SS visitors to the dark side.

Completely void of logic, and just another made up excuse to be able to drive faster. 0/10 for credibility. As is ignoring the flaws in Mr Smith's arguments and choosing instead to divert to what I have said.

I don't have a 'road safety' campaign to hold up with a load of poor research, misinterpreted/ignored stats, or untruths. I don't have anything to prove. Paul Smith does. And he can't. He just keeps saying 'we believe', when he gets his slot on tv, when in fact there is only one of him and some people who don't like to be stopped from driving fast, and find his cause a convenient one to latch on to. And others who don't really understand his unconventional arguing techinique but like the sound of it. Means to an end, despite the fact that his supporters acknowledge that there is some naivety going on.

It'll never work. 'Believe' isn't a word that holds any power to convice others.

I'm just here to ask questions. Which more often than not cannot be answered. So the shouting starts.

'Cos I think you're a troll of the worst kind - you can spell!
(Mind, I've never heard of 'unfatigued'........)

I haven't seen much shouting.

Here, that is. 'There', its another story.

JubJub, just because you have 'nothing to prove' doesn't mean you can just come along and tell lies, untruths, falsifications and misrepresentations.

Your purpose here is patently obvious to anyone who has read even a handful of your posts, you're here to try to catch out, misquote, or in any way 'show up' whomever you can.

I'm sure you and your 'flat earth' speed kills cronies get together and have a good little chuckle every time you think you've 'scored points', but the fact is that nobobdy here takes you, or anything you have to say seriously.

I made the mistake of doing so once, but soon learnt the error of my ways, now you're not even a blip on the radar.

I'm sure you could find some way to better occupy your time!

You are the wrong person to be messing with me.


Time to ram that smell of coffee down your throat.

You are not here to ask questions; said you on C+: “my work there is done”.
You don’t have anything to prove because your dishonest intentions have already been proven.

Yes that was me who remarked about fatigue.
For those who don’t know, I repeated one of my experiences to the folk on C+, something I originally posted here. After posting that in C+ I got so much abuse from these trolls who infest that forum, and an absolute refusal to acknowledge that the phenomenon could affect many motorists (medical conditions excepted). I repeated exactly the same – word for word – on PH to derive a reference (who better to ask about driving experiences than people who post in a driving enthusiasts forum? I deliberately kept it out of view of SS to ensure no bias, I also made no comment as to my intention until an overall trend of responses was apparent), the response was a unanimous agreement with my claim, supported with tales of their own experiences. This was completely the opposite of what I got from the trolls such as jubjub (aka Mister Paul on C+), yet these trolls claim to be drivers? Don’t make me laugh. Their undoing became complete.

Let’s consider one of your trolls (perhaps yourself) own ‘facts’ on that subject:
“Wind down the window to stop you from feeling sleepy” to which I posted a link to a respectable website (Roadsafe or something) stating how such actions do not stop people from falling asleep (there was me thinking that was common knowledge, oh well) – I literally laughed out very loud as your ‘fact’ gave me visions of people opening their windows so staying wide awake, then immediately and spontaneously falling asleep, thus bypassing the ‘tired’ phase. What a laugh that proved to be.

What about the times when you personally accused me of questionable/inconsistent behaviour, to which I kept asking “Really? Where?” Never once did I get a response to these.

Remaining with ‘facts’: after around 20 pages of asking for evidence on the claims made on that ‘page 8’ (so much for me diverting huh?), all I got was a reference to another C+ thread (even from yourself). I examined the said thread only to find a link to T2000 (a greatly biased source stating, wildly out of context, a discussion which incidentally was nothing to do with road safety, speed cameras or the SS policy) and the Chapman site, the basic details of which are so wrong it is laughable – read it for yourself and see if you can spot the glaring error!!!.
The rest contained ‘logic’ such as ‘you haven’t responded so I will take that as an admission’, then when Paul does find time to waste on you trolls and deny the claim: ‘oh so now you’ve changed your mind’. How pathetic.

‘Truthful, flaws and logic’ indeed!



You represent the absolute worst of freedom of speech.


SSers and admin: apologies for fanning the flames.

For references to fatigue, just ask truckers the difference in there (our) job since limiters and cruise control came on the scene.

At least, before the limiters, the sheer concentration needed at 60 (or more. I had an artic in 1978 that would top 70 with ease!) keeps you awake with the adrenalin!

Is this clown the daddy of all TROLLS or what,or is it dave in disguise.Carry on troll we are all laughing at you.....

Its BOMBUS the troll watch out he is trolling near you.sory but there are more trolls,smeggy jub jub,sound like a right bunch of TW*TS.

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Wildy replied to Big Rod over on PH. For record .. neither of us think he is a "troll". Bit silly perhaps to mislay one of his documents and leave it all to the last minute to dig them out.... only to find a case of Murphy's Law .. as in "not where he thought" .. and deny his mind went blank as he did to Wildy on PH..


He probably does not think so.. but in reality he must have done. Easy done to place papers in the wrong section wherever we keep them. We did buy a snappy little wallet from the much overpriced Lakeland shoppe .. we bought in their sale .. but still pricey in reality.. but I guess we are paying for the design and "novelty of the idea" as well.

So simple though.. a file with labelled wallets designed to fit the important documents. It should have cost a really extortionately overpriced £18 and we snapped it on a "discontinued shelf" for a fiver

But with a bit of creativity from the stationers' .. you could make up a similar version for roughly the same price we paid in the sale price

All the douments are stored together ... labelled and we placed ours in an allegedly fire proof safe as well.


But the real "trolls" - if the definition is just to cause bother .. then spindrift and his little clique of sock puppets who could all be this deceitful person who makes up names and places of abode .. is a troll.

If someone posts up something for debate.. an opinion .. but does so in a manner which does not make personal attack (banter is allowed .. and so long as this is meant in good faith and obvious teasy fun.. we can all take a joke and smile and reply with equal good humour) .. then no problems at all with that.

It is when they make sweeping, antagonistically, absurdly anachronistic and severely bitter and competely illogically, untrue and maliciously abusive statements. or just post "Liar.. Liar.. fake .. fake .. you scientologist you!".. or other equally "racist" remark as to post about "religion" of whatever flavour is deemed "racist" if you take the words of that Act of Parliament to the letter.. and believe me.. had run-ins in the past with various religions over blood.. being male.. and so on and so on.. This does not mean I respect the patient any the less.. but means I have to fight within myself and my own conscience and professionlism to liaise with that patient and resolve differences to achieve the outcome of prolonging their life with real quality of existing. Not always that easy .. but I think it's a case of tact and trying to fight some professional "arrogance" (right word )_ as well.

Not seen this in Big Rod. Just think he's been unlucky in a lot of co-incidence. His story broke at the same time as the Bolton chap whose car was crushed despite his being able to prove legality at the time. Not seen anything else in the press so far about that case. Will be keeping eyes open as "insurance document not being proof of being insured" as Wildy read from PH BiB at the time .. rather affects each and everyone of us.

Big Rod simply misplaced his document. If he insured through a broker as we do.. and possibly we pay more ... but I doubt when I compare the on-line quotes with what we actually paid for all the cars - including naming the kittens on our policies and saving by adding our names to the policies we took out for the kittens in their own right. We do pay for these by the way. I did reduce the allowances to them slightly to reflect this cost .. am not stupid nor over-indulgent... they make do with "less" .. but I removed one serious overhead and do help with uni fees and study costs anyway. (One at Uni ... the twins are set to follow.. .. gulp.. on my bank account.)

By the way .. on the subject of "scientology".. I will state again for the hard of hearing .. especially the individual condemning "scientology"



This family follow a Christian based culture. We are Catholics and attend a Catholic church.

We have nothing against any other religion. All are entitled to follow whatever faith they like. I will respect all those who choose those other modes of worship .. and have equal tolerance to those who claim tobe agnostic or atheist.

To deride someone for whatever they choose to follow .. in a free society .. and claim to be "multi-cultural" makes that person a hypocrite.

I have had my moments with faiths who refuse blood transfusions and blood products.... and tranplant recommendations.. based on religious belief. If we are talking of a young child .. I can invoke the courts to help me. If they are consenting adults.. I have to respect their wishes and try to persuade as best I can.. but have to look for any alternative to keep them alive and lucid in the meantime. ]

Those bigots should try this some time. They'd have a rude awakening as to the reality of life as opposed to the la-la land of cyberspace they appear to reside in

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