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Thisislondon report saying "Now speed camera HQ is bombed"

It is possible they handle the accounts or incoming mail for a SCP.


Sky TV News is reporting that they are accountants to Speed Check Services, who make SPECS.

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BBC article has changed. Good old trustworthy BBC.

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Two hurt in 'mail bomb' explosion
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The "small explosion" occurred at Vantis in Wokingham
Two men have received minor injuries in a "small explosion" at an accountancy company in Berkshire.

Thames Valley Police were called to Vantis, in Oaklands Business Centre, Wokingham, just after 0900 GMT when an item of mail ignited.

The firm's building was evacuated and a cordon has been set up around the site.

Police said it was too soon to speculate whether the incident was connected to a similar explosion in central London on Monday.

The BBC understands however, that Thames Valley Police are already investigating three other suspect package deliveries.

They have all been sent to businesses in the past few weeks - two in the Thames Valley area and one in Birmingham.

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In the latest incident, South Central Ambulance Trust said two men, aged in their 30s, were treated for minor injuries but had not been taken to hospital.

Ambulance spokesman Graham Groves said: "The paramedic teams treated two male members of staff, in their 30s, for blast injuries to their hands and upper body.

"However, their injuries were not considered serious and they did not need treatment in hospital."

Fourteen people were forced to leave the building.

Ross Clarkson, a spokesman for Vantis, confirmed two members of staff had received "superficial" injuries that were treated on site.

He would not speculate as to whether the incident could be connected with Monday's "small" explosion at the Capita building in Victoria Street, central London, in which a woman received minor injuries.

Mr Clarkson said the firm, which has its headquarters in London, does tax and accountancy work for small to medium-sized businesses and is not connected with Capita.

He said to his knowledge the package had not been targeted specifically at Vantis.

Staff have been sent home for the day.

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Scotland Yard's counter-terrorism unit is investigating Monday's explosion in London.

A spokesman for the force said officers would examine whether there were any links between the incident and Tuesday's blast.

In the previous incidents police are investigating, one of the packages delivered to a company called Orchid Cellmark, in Abingdon, Oxfordshire, exploded, leaving a woman slightly injured.

All the companies received jiffy bags containing a crude firework-type explosive.

Each had a similar return address and a well-known animal rights activist, Barry Horne was named on the back of one envelope. Barry Horne died in 2001.

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They're clearly nuts but for god's sake why are the government persisting with policies that protect no-one, cause resentment and have now created a target for nutters harming an employee in the process!


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Maybe they want people to think they are gods, and therefore they can't admit to making a mistake?
Maybe they think they are gods....

If we have to have any "authorities" it would be nice if they could be more human, and admit their mistakes.

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They're clearly nuts but for god's sake why are the government persisting with policies that protect no-one, cause resentment and have now created a target for nutters harming an employee in the process!

Ordinary people, pushed far enough are those who become 'nutters'

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Nigel Humpries of ABD made good use of his slot on PM in relation to this.


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They're clearly nuts but for god's sake why are the government persisting with policies that protect no-one, cause resentment and have now created a target for nutters harming an employee in the process!

Ordinary people, pushed far enough are those who become 'nutters'


over 10% of the population experiance some form of mental illness. A governmet policy that pisses off millions of people has the potential to generate a veritable army of people tipped over the edge enough to engage in this sort of activity!

Be Warned!

I expect numerous copy cat incidents. I wouldnt work there!

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On the local news tonight Vantis are apparently the accountants for Speed Check who are the only supplier of speed enforcement systems in the UK.

I'm sure that the staff at Speed Check are going to be careful opening the mail for a while.

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And today West Midlands SCP are reported to have identified 200 extra "blackspot" sites.Guess what that means - yep right in one - another 200 sites for cash collection.


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So the government tell you to pay them, even though you get nothing for it, and if you dare retaliate they call you a terrorist?

Reminds me of school bullies.


Does the government send bombs to your house? What a pathetic comparison.

I'm all for people torching speed cameras, but sending bombs through the post is downright evil and I hope they catch the nutter doing this.


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g_attrill wrote:
Thisislondon report saying "Now speed camera HQ is bombed"

It is possible they handle the accounts or incoming mail for a SCP.



I'd like to condemn the attacker for injuring someone like this but to be completely honest I don't really blame him.

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whilst I am by no means a 100% supporter of safespeed, I do think a moderator would be wise to prune this thread (and quickly) to avoid giving ammunition to those more vocal safespeed opponents elsewhere.

Thoughts and best wishes with those who have been injured.

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Breaking news....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6338003.stm
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Letter bomb injures DVLA worker
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A member of staff at the DVLA in Swansea has been taken to hospital following an incident at about 0930 GMT on Wednesday.

A spokesman said emergency services had been called and were dealing with the investigation.

He said: "A female member of staff was injured and the lady is on her way to hospital as a result of the incident."

The DVLA in maintains registers of drivers and vehicles and is responsible for road safety.


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Please watch what you're saying in this thread folks.

Mail bombs are no more and certainly no less than an abomination.

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Please watch what you're saying in this thread folks.

Mail bombs are no more and certainly no less than an abomination.


I totally agree. I'm sickened at the thought of those innocent employees suffering painful and possibly disfiguring injuries. My thoughts go out to them.

I would also ask the government to please make sure, now and in future, that anyone who has a legitimate moral or ethical complaint against abuse of their rights has a legal and peaceful means of pursuing that complaint.


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Kent police saying a letter bomb received at a private address on Saturday might be linked.

PS. Saw your telephone interview on News 24 earlier Paul :-)

edit: 12:15 - wow, they just had Capt. Gatso in a live telephone interview too!

edit: 12:30 - repeated a slightly shortened version of Paul's interview.


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Hampshire police report a controlled explosion on a package in Havant
bbc news scroll (more soon) problobly un related

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“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
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kent package
Giving his name only as Mike, he said the postmark on the package was not local.

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“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
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Interesting how "drivers" immediately get the finger of suspicion pointed at them on this one isnt it?

The fact is this could be almost anyone with a gripe against the organisations on the receiving end. So far the only common theme the press seem to have cottoned on to is the motoring connection.
Is it possible an individual is somehow connected to all these different organisations and thats where the present campaign is really targetted?

Just like to add my condemnation of the people sending these packages. If theyre affiliated with motorists in some way, all theyre doing is giving ammunition to those who would see us all walking.

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I would also ask the government to please make sure, now and in future, that anyone who has a legitimate moral or ethical complaint against abuse of their rights has a legal and peaceful means of pursuing that complaint.

That's the problem, isn't it? There is no easy legal way to retaliate against these companies and organisations who are stealing our money and aren't treating us like people, so I can understand how someone would want to hurt them back.
But I suppose it would be best to acknowledge that they have real people working for them because that's what we want them to do of us.

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