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Ummmm...........

WRT the 'locking' of the last thread I posted about my recent caution regarding failure to produce my insurance documentation, can I ask why that's so and why I now have a 'Troll Alert' avatar?

I certainly didn't intend to cause offence or indeed antagonise in the slightest, I only posted the topic as I thought IMHO that it was in some way humorous in a satirical/ironic sort of fashion.

If someone can explain what I did wrong, I'll endeavour not to do it again.

Also, please feel free to remove the post if it's not suitable.

For what it's worth, I AM NOT A TROLL!!

Thanks in advance.

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If I have to explain you won't understand.

Then please email me your address and land line telephone number for verification.

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Paul Smith
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Don't worry about it. I'm a troll because I disagree with the majority on here.

Paul,

I'm sure you'll appreciate that I'm at least a bit hesitant to submit my contact details even by request of Email from an open forum.

I would be much more comfortable and likely to comply with your request if you'd be kind enough explain to what conclusion a verification might meet.

I'd also be grateful for a brief explanation of why you've reached this opinion on my intentions from my posts on this forum thus far and indeed what rule I've contravened.

I can assure you that I had absolutely no intentions of causing contention in any way shape or form.

I look forward to hearing from you.

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If I have to explain you won't understand.

Well I agree with the majority on here which is why I'm very curious as to my newly found 'Troll' status.

It's not really a big issue in the grand scheme of things, but I found it a little offensive to be labelled as such without and explanation and subsequently the opportunity to make ammends.

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If I have to explain you won't understand.

I suspect it has something to do that certain authorities will no doubt very shortly be taking a good look at this forum, if they haven't already, given the events over the last couple of days, as part of their investigations.

Please forgive my ignorance JubJub, but what events are you talking abut in particular?

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If I have to explain you won't understand.

I suspect he's talking about the mailbombs that were delivered to the company in charge of congestion charging, the accountants behind a firm manufacturing camera equipment (?) and now DVLA.

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

That further justifies why you are on final warning; a trolling post if ever there was one!

You know why I'm on a final warning. It's because Paul Smith didn't like me asking questions about the pages that used to be on this site which listed illegal methods of avoiding capture and conviction for speeding.

Or do we have to go through this again?

...and the trolling continues!!

You're fooling noone JubJub!

Jub Jub. You were labled a troll because you were being a pain in the arse, asking the same question over and over and over and over and over and over... again when you'd HAD answers.

Lets not go there again shall we? From your post on the truckers forum I THOUGHT you'd decided to contribute properly, but obviously not.

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

Ah! I see. I can understand a certain amount of apprehension in that case.

I still don't see how my anecdotal post constitutes being incriminating or indeed provocative in any way, certainly no more so than many of the other points of view.

I think in light of this weeks personal 'developments', I might refrain from procuring a lottery ticket this week!!

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If I have to explain you won't understand.

I'll be perfectly honest Rod, and obviously I can't speak for the moderators either...

You had a bump that ended up with the police attending. You were given a producer which you failed to comply with for whatever reasons, so yes, you are breaking the law. For all the police knew you could have been driving without insurance and just trying to blag is because you realised you were nicked.

Whilst I don't actually agree that the post was trolling (more like someone who's just had a slap in the face and is looking for a bit of justification), I can see why moderators might have thought so in light of recent events in the world and on the forum. There are spates of intentionally provocative posts now and then that read like attempted entrapment, which TBH yours did.

So, that's that. My tuppence worth. If you're not a troll then please carry on enjoying the forum. I'm sure the moderator(s) will be happy to appologise once this is all resolved (obviously assuming you're NOT a troll!)

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

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This is why you have the label. You are of course free to ask and disagree with the answer, but you continue to persist past what is considered reasonable.

Tell you what, how about I go back to C+ and ask you again and again and again and again, ad infinitum, for your proof of claims you (“Mister Paul”) made on C+ - or even for the claims you yourself made regarding my behaviour. Push me further and I will reference your offending posts for all to see and laugh at!

Go ahead. If it makes you feel better.

Being laughed at by people who possibly were only this morning among those seeking even the tiniest element of excuse rather than condemnation for sending bombs through the post is something that I think I can put up with.

Yeah, but they let me drive out of their car park!! And besides, it transpires that I'm not necessarily outwith the boundaries of legality, but that's not the subject of this particular discussion really.



Thank you. It wasn't intended as such in the slightest.



No, not justification, it was just an anecdote which I thought would provide some amusement in some way as I thought, (however tenuous the link might be.), that the 'like minded' members of the forum might be able to relate to it.



Well, I'm genuinely apologetic for any misunderstanding. I am aware that there's a huge potential for this forum to be scrutinised particularly as you say in light of recent events, but I genuinely didn't think my post conveyed any malicious implications. I was only trying to convey my minor frustration at the utilisation of 'red tape'.



Please believe I'm not a Troll. I find this forum to be very educational and worthwhile. For what it's worth, I don't have a high post count due to the fact that any comments I feel inclined to make have generally already been aired, sometimes in other words, and I'm very hesitant to being caught up in pedantics. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy a good debate, but I try to avoid splitting hairs wherever possible.

I'm not expecting an apology, but some clarification of the reasoning behind my rebranding would be appreciated so's I don't make the same mistake again. I just don't want people to have the wrong impression of me for nothing more than my naivity or a simple misunderstanding.

Paul, I'm more than happy for you to remove the post seeing as you feel it contains unsiutable content, and I hope we can forget this silly episode happened.

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If I have to explain you won't understand.

How about the people who unequivocally condemned it?

You do not hold the higher moral ground here!

C'mon folks, the purpose of this thread was to try and reach some sort of explanation and hopefully retraction of my recent categorisation.

I don't feel that bickering is helping my case really.

Can we keep it on topic please?

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If I have to explain you won't understand.

ROFL

Then again maybe I spend to much time on PH.

For what it is worth, I had a scare with a producer some years ago, I was not late it was just that I needed to come up with the insurance cert for a pool car at 4pm on the last working day before the xmas break. I was given a photocopy but when I took it to the station it turned out it was last years cert. I was somewhat concerned to say the least, the police were understanding and it all got sorted in the end.

For what it is worth your posts do not look that Troll like to me.

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Driving fast is for a particular time and place, I can do it I just only do it occasionally because I am a gentleman.
- James May