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Stupid is as as stupid does....

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Speed camera policy Kills

I'm sure we could change that, so I'd advise you not to mention where it is.

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Just behind the Mount Rd chingford, but I dont live there anymore.

I was thinking a set of pedestrian lights, in front of my new place, I could stick the button in with blue tack and listen to the bleep bleep all night.

Why don't drivers sound their horns when negociating speed humps in the day (to alert other road users of their presence) and rev their engines at night whilst changing down gear (in order to comply with the law on sounding horns at night)...?

Not that I'd ever do anything like that!

Surely putting obstacles into roads that cause damage to vehicles travelling over them within the legal speed limit (and discomfort to the occupants) puts the councils on thin ice legally. If you had an accident as a result of a collapsed sewer or pothole you could sue the council so why not speed ramps? Just wondering.....

Simply because taking these things with the transmission engaged exacerbates the damage potential to drive shafts and diff. Doing so in a low gear exacerbates it more. I have an auto so can't readily do anything about this, but in a manual car I invariably dip the clutch going over those things.

[quote="tim.tonal"]Why don't drivers sound their horns when negociating speed humps in the day (to alert other road users of their presence) and rev their engines at night whilst changing down gear (in order to comply with the law on sounding horns at night)...?

Not that I'd ever do anything like that!.....[/quote]

Some people may enjoy hearing you getting all flustered.

London E1 is the worst I know, for bumps, nightmare. Anyone know any worse? Its all very well having them on your street, its another when you have to drive over them all day.

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If you cant pay the fine then dont do the crime.

Got a 20 limit near me with bumps. I ususaly drive through in first gear. Get black looks from the locals...but hey, you can't have it both ways...

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Speed camera policy Kills

Theres cracking example of potential "killer" speed humps by me, they are more cusions, if you line your wheels up with them you can go over without being effected, even encountering them for the first time you realise you have no need to slow down, so you spend you time concentrating on lining yourself up with the humps.

this is dangerous enough on a normal road, BUT they decided to place them on a steep hill next to a large park, very few cars drop there speed now people are used to them, if you watch people coming down the hill you will see there eyes glued to the floor, "Bump", "A child? Where?"

I`m sure the think of the children brigade will be after even more humps and a speed camara when a child gets hurt there, "But what do you mean the driver wasnt speeding??? he must of been he ran someone over"
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The recent bout of snowy weather underlined another potential problem with humps.

They can easily be partly or completely hidden by accumulations of snow, and, at a time when grip is limited anyway, hitting one unexpectedly could cause you to veer off course and possibly cause an accident.

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

There are supposed to be strict guidelines as to the signposting of road humps (with requirements that the signs be lit etc. etc.), just like there are supposed to be guidelines for speed limit signage.

I and everyone in here can probably cite at least one example in their locale of the flouting of these regulations (my own being the set of humps on the only exit from my street - the humps are complete but there are only the posts for signs, and trenches cut in the pavement for the wiring to the lights).

That's true - and it's not an effect that I've considered before.

Has anyone had a nasty experience with a snow covered / snow hidden hump? There might be a PR opportunity here.

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Paul Smith
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I noticed the council have put the hump back outside of Ian Beesleys house (not that it was ever right outside), and as yet Beesley hasnt made good on his promise to remove it again!

Whats he waiting for?

Maybe he hasnt noticed it yet???

Its only been there since dec 10th

But a big brave guy like beesley shorely isnt afraid of going to jail.

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If you cant pay the fine then dont do the crime.

I have a feeling that your last 2 posts might have finally pushed Paul, and the rest of us, too far. I would not be surprised if today was the last time we see you...

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Ross

Yes I'm a hoon, but only on the track!!!!

Another Troll bites the dust........

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Speed camera policy Kills

In their wisdom Fife council have installed speed humps throughout the whole of glenrothes, in some bizarre places... although I have been going over them well under the speed limit, I've already had to replace the front suspension on my car, and notice now that the exhaust is hanging loose. They have placed the bumps in areas where there was never a speed problem, in one street in particular its almost comical... the road is narrow nad always has a row of parked cars along one side.. I have never seen anyone able to do more than 10mph here, yet we have bumps. why?

They have also installed massively high zebra crossings, raised off the road by an unbelievable height.. at 3am one morning while coming home i decided to try and go over it at the 30mph legal limit, and was duly catapulted out of my seat and hit my head off the roof.

If I'm within the speed limit, surely I should NOT be jolted in this way... and the council should be accountable for damage.

Where it is beyond a joke though is in coaltown of weymss.. a town which has now been "traffic calmed" with islands jutting out into the middle of the street, and priority signs. You come off a 60mph country road into the village, round a blind corner and instantly into one of the islands with no warning whatsoever.

one resident commented in the local paper that he has never seen an accident in the town in 50 years of living there, but has personally witnessed 6 in the 2 months since the "traffic calming" measures were brought in.

I can see its only a matter of time before a driver comes round the blind bend and swerves to avoid the island, knocking down a child in the process.

Fife council have gone completely mad.

So just how many Shares do you have in the Speed Camera operators in the UK?

In Grafham, a small village in Cambridgeshire, the local council have recently "calmed" the through road with the usual pletora of humps, chicanes, and red paint. The problem is that there is a double bend in the middle of the village, and there are now humps on both sides - actually on the bend.

Bad enough for cars if there is a bit of frost on the ground - but if you are a motorcyclist .... can you now sue the council for attempted manslaughter??

Any other areas got posts/bollards on the edge of pavement on humps/tables etc.Warks has after a local councillor skidded on one in frosty weather and ended up on the pavement.That panicked them.Ok for a car - occupants are well protected against these , but i pity bikers if they slide onto one of these.

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lets bring sanity back to speed limits.
Drivers are like donkeys -they respond best to a carrot, not a stick .Road safety experts are like Asses - best kept covered up ,or sat on

My sister lives in Southend on Sea, where many are the speed humps are illegally high, to the extent that the underside of her unmodified audi A2 has been damaged.
I actually can't drive the Chimaera to visit her as it wouldn't make it over the humps.

Better get a massive f*ck-off 4x4 then

Oops

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"Show me someone who says that they have never exceeded a speed limit, and I'll show you a liar, or a menace." (Austin Williams - Director, Transport Research Group)

Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed