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It's a pity that MOSIS (look that up on Wikipedia) has been suspended as I'd like to sink my fangs into his worthless hide. He claims he's never seen these . I'd say that was an inability to read the road conditions. Secondly, a compulsion to stare at the speedo smacks of inattention. Thirdly, inablility to respond cogently without foul and abusive language = impatience. I'd say he's a potential road rager and an accident waiting to happen.

Let him hand over his "evidence" to the police. He'll probaly find his covert surveillance is a breach of the Human Rights Act.

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I kep hearing on our local radio station "Speeding it's not spectacular"
Liar, it IS in the right place, Formula one, drag racing the TT for example

I feel a complaint to the ASA coming on anytime now

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I reckon you're thinking about the wrong sorts of hazards, and the wrong sort of performance failure.

Lets say kids playing on the pavement well ahead. As you get closer your concern rises, and as you get very close, one runs out suddenly from the group.

I'm pretty sure that I'd first lift off LATER (but maybe not by much) if I was trying to drive to the speed limit. There HAS to be a mode switch and it has to take time and resources.

The bend is a bad example, because it isn't (normally) an accident risk situation - it just 'normal driving' and you have plenty of time to adjust to the requirements of the bend.

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Paul Smith
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If you are basing your speed decisions primarily on the number on a stick, I think it is natural and inevitable that you will end up paying less attention to other factors. It isn't a conscious thought ("I only need to look out for red circles, no need to watch for children"). More that your ongoing process of judging an appropriate speed becomes less relevent because nothing you do depends on the outcome, except for those occasions where the appropriate speed dips below the speed limit. (Situations that are becoming increasingly rare as speed limits are lowered, it seems to me.) I think the effects will go further. If you are paying less attention to hazard assessment and reacting to possible hazards, there is less demand to notice hazards around you.

I think the whole approach naturally tends to reduce drivers to 'convoy' mode where they concentrate on the speed limit signs, their speedo, and the distance to the car in front. It's a frightening prospect and I think it's happening right now.

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That was posted two days ago and, so he said, he was going to the police with the 'evidence' yesterday.
Maybe he should be 'un-suspended' so that he can tell us all how he got on with the Old Bill. I would think they laughed at him, behind his back if not to his face.
If he's so interested in filming illegal activities, why does he not go and film drug dealers outside schools, clubs and pubs? Now, that would be interesting, until one of them 'dealt' with him, that is.

I'm sure he would find at least one ignorant little politically correct wannabee who would take him seriously enough to waste a few k's of tax-payers' money investigating this....

How about "I need to speed because if I go at the speed limit then the next traffic light (after the one I've just moved off from) will turn red on me just as I'm about to reach it because they're programmed that way so that you just get caught at them all. But if I go a few mph over the speed limit I can get through the next one just in time and then I'll get green lights on all the remaining ones too....

That's the plan. Over here they would setup a covert camera so they could rake in some extra money.....

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Ross

Yes I'm a hoon, but only on the track!!!!

How about - 'I regularly drive above the limit because a greater and greater pecentage of the rural speed limits in Oxfordshire are a complete
joke and I take responsibility for my own actions.'
Sensibly set limits will engender respect; poorly set limits do not.

Or how about - I always drive at an appropriate speed for the conditions.

To me, safety takes priority...

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I just have to ask the question, what extra benefit would one get from 4 cameras over and above just one?
Maybe it is so he can say he has more cameras than brain cells?

Also, I recall seeing one of these reality police thingies, which featured a chap who had a camera mouted on his dash. The police used the videos in educational courses, I believe it was stated that they couldn't be used evidentially. Even though some guy was filmed driving up the hard shoulder to avoid a jam.

Also, one other point, isn't the film from a police car used only to support the accusation of the Officer in question? It isn't the primary evidence to the best of my knowledge.

How bizarre that every copper judge and prosicution lawer is prossicuting you for something they do themselves almost every day!

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

20 mph speedd limit and humps did not stop a 7 ton recovery truck from striking and killing a 10 year old outside a school per the Manchester press. The humps were high per a resident's quote in the paper.

A speed limit of 20 mph and humps did not save a lolly pop lady when a bus driver had a coughing fit and hit her.


As for his cameras and his claim that he has "speeding drivers".. unless his cams record the speed in same way as the gadgets in the cop cars do - then he has no evidence.

For example... we sometimes film things when on holiday as you miss nice scenery when you are driving You could not really measure the speed accurately - nor unless the person operating the camera record any example of "bad driving" unless specifically focussing the lens on this. I doubt very much whether mosis actually has these cameras or any "incriminating material". Nor do we know what sort of crimes he was committing as surely he has to take his eyes off the road to fiddle with this equipment as he is driving along.

What a plankwit!

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I've always wondered what I would say if pulled over for speeding.

"Sorry officer, I was concentrating on the road and my driving rather than staring at the speedo".

Wouldn't go down too well, eh.

Or conversly -"i couldn't have been speeding -i was watching my speedo" --"oh in that case due care or dangerous driving ",Sir"

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Good evening sir, can you tell me how fast you were driving back there?

Yes officer. I was driving in full accordance with my training at a safe and appropriate speed according to the circumstances and taking full account of prevailing conditions.

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or sorry officer could'nt see you
because of my tinted windows, and i was looking at my sat nav. lighting a ciggie
oh and i got a text message from csp warning me of stealth cameras
goldy

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