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I have been sent a NIP for speeding , i was alleged to be doing 82mph in a 50mph zone on the worcester - Kidderminster road on the 2oth september.
I agre i was on that road but there was no van anywhere or cameras that i saw, the only thing i remember is a white van being parked on the side of the road, could that have been it?

What do i do now, do i send off the NIP an wait for a case to be held aginst me or can i do somthing about it now?

I need my car due to my job an to take my g/f to work every morning, what would the outcome possibly be?

You dont say whether the possibility exists that you were over the limit, or by how much YOU thought it was.

Get yourself over to http://www.pepipoo.com/ with the information, and follow the advice you'll get there.
Then, pop back here and have a good read through the forums, to help prevent a repeat in the future.

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Sorry, to hear about that,but as has been said you have never once said that you werent doing that speed, only you couldn't see the what had recorded your speed. You might not like this but this is typical of the average driver, they excessively speed and don't concentrate on important things like, pedestrians, police cars, tallivan etc. Cause if you had you would have been on here before now telling us you had seen it but it was too late, and what can you do.
I dont agree with siting in 50 60 70mph limits as they are usually roads that can take the higher speeds,so, no doubt you will tell us if this road is made like this or it has got any safety features which would cause enforcement to be done on this road. I would think that you have been caught by a camera van as opposed to a police officer, as they hopefully would have stopped you and let you know there and then, as for hiding I get accused of this everyday as a deflection by the individuals failure to use forward observations even though my vehicle is fully liveried and side onto traffic in both directions, so anyone who doesn't see me has only got themselves to blame not me, oh, and I only enforce in 30mph with school's, pubs, houses, and pedestrians etc, being 35mph over the posted speed limit, should result in a court appearance as you could be facing a disqualification, however if they do offer you the option of £60 and 3points take it as it could cost you a lot more on the long run. Whatever happens and good luck, and in future look at things you pass which look out of place etc, .
Stephen

Why is a talivan 'important'? Except for the fact that it can take away part or all of your licence what good does it actually do?

Is it a hazard in the true sense of the word, like pedestrians or other vehicles?

Do we want drivers squandering their precious 'attention resource' looking for talivans?

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I think you answered your question with a question. It is important if you want to keep your license is it not.

Stephen

I'd far rather drivers paid attention to the actual hazards, rather than scanning overbridges and behind bushes looking for sneaky speed traps, but I'm crazy that way.

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In fairness to Stephen - 82 (actual?) in a 50 is a bit more than a blip!

I am not sure if 50 may be appropriate, but unless it's a motorway or very straight road, you would not be able to keep an eye open for a van or camera -at 82 mph, you SHOULD be watching keenly where you are going.
I would think different if the speed was nearer the lower side of 60 mph, and Stephen does say that scamming on a 50-60-70 is unecessary

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Lets be honest here I dont think that many people on this site would disagree when I say that 65mph is a reasonable speed to travel at over the posted speed limit, but 82mph well to me that is deliberate not just a momentarily lapse in concentration and I agree you shouldn't have to be looking for camera vans and such like, but then if you travel at or within a reasonable perameter then I feel that you have no need to worry about seeing any of these none important hazards as suggested. So,my other question to you is did you not just see the enforcement vehicle due to you not looking for it, or was it that you were looking ahead to where you were going then if this is the case would you have seen someone or something that could have come into conflict with you and if it did could you have easily avoided contact with it, if the answer is no,then depending on the outcome a sec 3 RTA all the way up to sec 1 RTA could be the offence what you are looking at. This is not based solely on speed alone but on the fact that " I DIDN'T SEE IT "syndrome which is a classic reply to the question asked or "I DIDN'T THINK HE WAS GOING TO PULL OUT " so its not the fact that the speed was dangerous it's the fact that you did nothing with the speed when it was required or when it was too late,perhaps another thread for this but I am trying to show the difference between a driver who speeds and is not doing anything with the information that he takes in through his scanning mode as opposed to someone who is switched on through either advanced training or just very experienced,granted if the enforcer is hidden then your fu***d .
sorry for the long rant.
Stephen

82 in a 50 limit safely?

Off the top of my head, you could do it in the right conditions here, here, here, here, here, to name a few I can think of.....

Not sure where this was, but what Stephen is trying to say, is that if you dont see the Talivan, then there is a possibility you would'nt see a kid riding carelessly on a bike, who might stray onto the carriageway - and since Orion failed to see the talivan, then regardless of where it was, he needs to improve his observation, despite his [Stephen's] observation that cameras should not normally be warranted in a 50-60-70 zone.

There is a 40 limit in Preston, on a straight stretch of road between Ashton and Ingol, which is bounded on one side by the railway, and on the other by a high wall, and nowhere for a talivan to hide - but it's still wise to treat it with respect, because there have been several accidents including a fatal or two, due to plain carlessness.
To look at the road, there is no reason to think 60 would not be safe - and you'd be right but for the curious habits of a few other drivers.

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