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Yeah, it's great isn't it, Weepej?!

If you drive at 30mph whilst scarfing down Es, you are Mr Blunderstorm's friend!

Yet if you take one aspirin and drive at 32mph, he thinks you are a dangerous child murdering criminal.

Weird world, policing in North Wales...

Must be really difficult for the real police officers who are trying to do a day's work, rather than the Prima Donna of drug pushing. I mean the Prima Donna of reasoned, adult debate on legalising all hard drugs, of course.

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We're off to the Caernarfon area tomorrow (one of my closest cousins is getting married, and I don't think "we're scared of all the scameras up there" would wash as an excuse for not turning up ), so I think our good friend Tom will be set for maximum threat level assessment and early warning... Might as well switch off the radio/CD as we cross over the border into Brunstromia, I suspect our soundtrack for that part of the journey will consist of nothing more than bells and sirens every few hundred yards

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Chris

Gatsos forever did say it was a country lane - chances are, nobody was doing much over 30 mph anyway? He does not say that others WERE speeding, just asked why they could not see the signage.

We have a narrow country lane between Windermere and the W/mere Golf Club, which is NSL. Recently a resident urged a 30mph limit be imposed, so local poolice did a speed survey, and ruled that traffic was already below the requested limit.

I would say 30 mph AVERAGE along the lane would be near impossible without closing the road to other traffic and pedestrians!

With reference to the OP, he states the camera was pointing through the windscreen. Is this not a sure sign that it was ANPR?

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

You don't have to look far to see that even that will not always protect you!

On the subject of the OP's query, am I mistaken in thinking that the type of speed measuring equipment carried by police patrols is not type approved for use from within a motor vehicle?

Gatsos Forever, is there any chance of you substantiating any of your wild claims, or entering into any kind of reasoned debate whatsoever, or is it your intention to simply snipe into various threads with ill-considered, ignorant banalities until you are shown the door?

Whenever I venture into north wales I am seldom doing less than 100mph, I'm also burning 2 litres of fuel per minute and making an altogether antisocial amount of noise. Our hippy visitors would fit!

Robin, at least you are not weaving from lane to lane, or constantly hitting the brakes!
I dont suppose you worry yourself about suicidal pedestrians throwing themselves in front of you either!

Here in Cumbria, some of them thrust their child's buggy out first, in order to intimidate drivers into allowing them across, even where it is not a sensible place to cross.
In the summer, they line up along nearly 100 yards of road, bordered upon one side with parked cars, and just yards from a mini roundabout.

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

Perhaps they were safer drivers than you?

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Aww hell, I was hoping the more genteel parts of the country were still immune from what I thought to be a London-centric level of stupidity

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Chris

Unlucky! We've got that here in the Midlands too. And they use them as battering rams in supermarkets, as they seem to think that having a pushchair confers on them some sort of preferential treatment...

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Most of the scousers in Flintshire think they've died and gone to Heaven, so I wouldn't worry about coppers - it's just as bad in Ellesmere port and Bromborough. So go over to Prestatyn or Llandudno and have some fun - you know you love it really.

Hmm, now the tone of that post sounds very much like another (now departed) poster from that neck of the woods who also took his username from a ruined Welsh abbey

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Any views expressed in this post are personal opinions and may not represent the views of Safe Speed

Oooooo, the irony....

More years ago than I like to remember at times (I don't really feel any older or any different to be honest .. apart from when trying to discipline my own kids anyway .. ) .... had the lovely job of "directin' traffick" when with the Met


Had all four crossroads at and all were looking at me as if to say.. "well c'mon .... yer dozy so and so!" Was just about to beckon forward one set of drivers.. when .. along comes the lady on the pram who places the pram in the road way and stands flush at the kerb .. "obviously looking out for traffic". I paused all traffic... beckoned her across and she just kept on waiting

I went up to her and asked .. "Madam.. are you waiting to cross?" She nodded and stated she was waiting at the kerb so that "I could let the traffic go first!"


I replied that this was just a little difficult as her baby was right in their path!


She honestly did not realise and went bright red when I pointed this out to her. She was all embarrassed when she actually admitted that she did not realise she had pushed the pram so far out.

I simply escorted her across and smiled and shrugged whgat I hoped to be sympathetic shoulders at the drivers to let them know I had not forgotten they were also "in an 'urry to continue!"

I suppose a new and rather young mum like that one may not be quite so aware that her pram does protrude quite a way in front of her

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Hmmmm. It does sound a bit... well .. familiar.

But back or anyway...

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Take with a chuckle or a grain of salt
Drive without COAST and it's all your own fault!

A SMILE is a curve that sets everything straight (P Diller).

A Smiley Per post
FINES USfor our COAST!

Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon - but driving with a smile and a COAST calm mind.

Now to the OP.... now I cannot guarantee anything but as a general rule of thumb ... professional judgement. discretion and common sense prevail in the human being (Mr Common Sense ain't quite pushing up daisies yet ... though his step-sons per the Mad Doc's post somewhere might be drivin' Miss Daisy around the bend )


If you were registering around 75 mph on speedo.. in a modern car (and the riff raff have played around on track with various gadgets they bought and begged me to test with them as well ) .. but we found cars built 1997 onwards seemed to indicate a 3 - 5 mph average speed above the speed per GPS thing and my various hairdriers .. used correctly and calbrated to a turn.

You would thus not cause them any concerns and they'd just apply normal logic.


If they were ANPR.. then there would be some back up further on as the whole purpose is to swoop down and remove obviously uninsured and illegal vehicles off the road immediately.


Relax and don't worry. Real officers are after morons and not the smidgeon fluctuates within reason.

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Take with a chuckle or a grain of salt
Drive without COAST and it's all your own fault!

A SMILE is a curve that sets everything straight (P Diller).

A Smiley Per post
FINES USfor our COAST!

Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon - but driving with a smile and a COAST calm mind.

In reply to Weepej,

as I was scammed on a country road 1/4 mile outside the nearest houses with fields on either side at 36mph after slowing to 10-15mph and then speeding up to 36mph after reading 3 heritage signs one after the other a couple of feet apart in increasing heights so that the third covered the 30mph sign after them that I missed and I was driving safely but missed the scam van because I was looking at the signs on the left and the clapped out van with no markings and no window open so obviously scamming illegally through glass,but prove it ,was on the right of me and therefore got me for this minor discrepancy. I would imagine that he even witnessed me slow to a near stop and then move of again and then immediately slow again, having travelled about 20 yds as I realised the side of the clapped out van had blue and yellow checkers on the bottom side of it, tw deep and these were dirty . So feeling really agrieved that common sense cannot be allowed in this scamming tax collecting world of speed cameras and that this particular prat was obviously targetting the 30mph sign or possibly whilst cars were still on the NSL stretch but again prove it as the only distinguishing feature was tall grass on each side, I did get the picture to have a look at.


So a question for you weepej is do you drive or are you just perfect? I feel your comment is quite sanctimonious.

My view on this topic is that safe speed is not the problem it is excessive speed and driving incorrectly for the conditions that cause problems. Speed Limits are an arbitary figure other wise how could a road be safe at 40 mph one day and suddenly be unsafe the next when it is reduced to 30mph without any change in condition.

In reply to Weepej,

I will treat your comment as sanctimonious clap trap, join the real world.

36mph with open green fields either side, 1/4 mile before the nearest houses or pavement and a hidden van and obscured 30mph signs is not a major criminal offence but according to law I was was wrong.

The scammer was actually aiming at the sign change from NSL to 30mph and obviously saw me read the 3 heritage signs in front of the speed sign at 0 mph but still pulled the trigger and as a result I am indignant of getting nipped when I was driving safely and not excessively speeding and have decided to never spend any money in Wales again.

You're assuming that it was "safe" when posted at 40mph.

Many roads are posted as NSL but it would be ridiculous to do 60mph on them.

Because that would take common sense!

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Ah, another perfect citizen on the board. Inane comments as above only show that you lack any kind of common sense.

For you and weepej, I have risen to your bait now and this will be the last response from me to any of your posts.

Go and get a life somewhere else.

But most of these decisions taken by coucil with regard to planned building up .. but which sometime never happen.. undroad never reviewed again.. Limit should only change as und when such work commence.


We have a lot of NSL roads in this area.. but no one actually drive at that speed as many too twisty. There are some which people do increase speed on as they straight enough though.. but have the mis-read limit point on the curves. But these not lucrative for Steve who stick to the revenue raising spots. The sites he uses are the same ones the police used to use in many cases in the past. Locals know about it .. strangers don't

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