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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 03:17 
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I am thinking :
that they will use ISA to not only start to charge for all roads used, (and not used in some cases when, as it will, go wrong) and also for every time that the limiter is turned off, and so a faster speed is used than the posted limit, and for all those ocasions the driver will have to justify why s/he did that and will be fined for every occasion.
This way about a quarter of the drivers will be off the roads in a few years, and then the Government can slap themselves on the back for achieving the targets agreed with Europe (years ago now) that by 2010 (or so forget the exact date) they will have got about 25% (7million) of UK drivers off the roads ! Not to say the massive fines imposed will solve several monetary problems for the government.

... perhaps ...

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As cynical as it sounds, I’d say their ultimate aim is to make driving as expensive and undesirable as possible. IMO where this is all leading is to price you off the road altogether, except for the lucky ones who have plenty of money of course.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:45 
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SafeSpeedv2 wrote:
I am thinking :
that they will use ISA to not only start to charge for all roads used, (and not used in some cases when, as it will, go wrong) and also for every time that the limiter is turned off, and so a faster speed is used than the posted limit, and for all those occasions the driver will have to justify why s/he did that and will be fined for every occasion.
This way about a quarter of the drivers will be off the roads in a few years, and then the Government can slap themselves on the back for achieving the targets agreed with Europe (years ago now) that by 2010 (or so forget the exact date) they will have got about 25% (7million) of UK drivers off the roads ! Not to say the massive fines imposed will solve several monetary problems for the government.

... perhaps ...


Voluntary speed control is the first step to acceptance of mandatory speed control.
All the proposed designs will have to be updated remotely, this will almost certainly be by some sort of gsm communication.
Which will mean a two-way flow of information.
Just because the driver has selected to only receive warnings and not to accept control does not mean that that decision will be final. It may well be that automatic speed control cannot be overridden in selected areas, or that it can ONLY be overridden in selected areas.
As for people being "driven off the roads by this system....unlikely. People are already being forced to reconsider personal transport in the light of economic reality. Public transport is looking better to me [cost-wise] than personal transport in SOME cases (it is only 12 quid return to brighton by rail.....ticket through a tourist office) (200 miles there and back).
However, the reality of disease infection on public transport means that buses are not a reality !

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:49 
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However, the reality of disease infection on public transport means that buses are not a reality !


Is that ow so many of the posters on these forums became infected with total paranoia? :D

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 18:07 
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Probably not.
Bearing in mind that gov is forcing people onto public transport, the first thing that happens if flu becomes pandemic is the closure of public transport.
No risk there then ?

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Have the proposers of this system ever actually used a sat-nav device?

I await the pile-ups caused by a driver pulling out of a 30mph side turning into an NSL DC in front of vehicles bearing down at 70, stamping on the loud pedal only to find his sat nav hasn't cottoned on to the 70 road.

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Have the proposers of this system ever actually used a sat-nav device?

I await the pile-ups caused by a driver pulling out of a 30mph side turning into an NSL DC in front of vehicles bearing down at 70, stamping on the loud pedal only to find his sat nav hasn't cottoned on to the 70 road.


How about if the car in front is a bit late updating the 30 to nsl you have crossed so you decide to overtake thinking they are just bumbling and half way past the update comes through?

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jomukuk wrote:
Probably not.
Bearing in mind that gov is forcing people onto public transport, the first thing that happens if flu becomes pandemic is the closure of public transport.
No risk there then ?


No greater risk than forgathering with sixty other people in your workplace. And much less risk than sending a child to school.

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Will the device work via GPS speed (unreliable?) or instrument speed, which could be disconnected, overridden or recalibrated?

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