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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 19:43 
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Theres no such thing as a 'loophole'.

there is simply the law.

You are either in accordance with it or not.

and exceeding the speed limit means you are breaking the law. So, why would a 'respectable' group like SS be allowing a legal firm that supports people who break the law, to advertise on their website, unless SS supports people who break the law?


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gatsos forever wrote:
civil engineer wrote:
Theres no such thing as a 'loophole'.

there is simply the law.

You are either in accordance with it or not.

and exceeding the speed limit means you are breaking the law. So, why would a 'respectable' group like SS be allowing a legal firm that supports people who break the law, to advertise on their website, unless SS supports people who break the law?


Safespeed doesn't choose the adverts....

Safespeed doesn't choose the adverts....

Safespeed doesn't choose the adverts....

Safespeed doesn't choose the adverts....

Safespeed doesn't choose the adverts...

Are we getting the point yet?

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Any chance you could put it in simpler terms Sixy, I don't think he's too bright.


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gatsos forever wrote:
civil engineer wrote:
Theres no such thing as a 'loophole'.

there is simply the law.

You are either in accordance with it or not.

and exceeding the speed limit means you are breaking the law. So, why would a 'respectable' group like SS be allowing a legal firm that supports people who break the law, to advertise on their website, unless SS supports people who break the law?


No law firm supports anyone who breaks the law. They may well DEFEND someone who is ACCUSED of breaking the law, but if they admit the offence to them [law firm] they wil have to advise them to plead appropriately or cease to represent them.
As pointed out in a case in Lancs, the drivers were not "getting off on a loophole". Since the road signs failed to advise them of the speed limit (coming from a side road to a main road, it is necessary to notify drivers of the changed limit...ie: A spped limit sign EACH side of the road) and no repeater signs were present on the main road before the camera van. The same happened in Northants, the A45 had speed restriction in place for road works, but the signage advising of the limit was not present on a slip road and the signs on the dual carriageway were not visible from the slip road. The speed restriction was 40mph in the road works. The camera van KNEW of the lack of signs since it parked IN FRONT OF THE NEXT 40mph sign, blocking the view. The drivers convictions were revoked.


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Is this intelligent discussion from the pro-speed lobby? Shows how stupid you lot are if it is.



No, it's a comment on your bloody minded ignorant blinkered attitude verging on Asperger's syndrome.
Nor are we the 'Pro-Speed' lobby. Christ, does it take a hammer to get through your thick skull?


The intelligent answer was immediately after the comment on your moronic little rant.

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gatsos forever wrote:
'Appropriately set limits' - meaning you do not support the current speed limits and want them scrapped in favour of higher ones, which will create additional danger.

No, I don't support some of the current limits, many of the residential ones (for example) are just fine. Increasing limits which are set inappropriately low does not necessarily create danger, in fact it can reduce it (especially on roads such as motorways).

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the pro-speed lobby isn't interested in safety- only their 'right' to break the law and get away with it - it's the same with all extremists.

Captain gatso is an extremist who performs near extremist actions (a real extremist is Miles Cooper), we're anything but. We are very much interested in safety, indeed we're very annoyed by the fact that the fatality rate has stopped falling and we believe we know why it is happening (and I fully expect you to dodge that point).


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Ah suddenly it is clear, if one pleads not guilty to a speeding offence that is a loophole in Gatsos forevers mind. Even presumably the loophole that the driver was in fact not speeding. Guess We will all have to plead guilty, mind you, that's perverting the course of justice!

Looks like that answer isn't coming, it must've been too difficult for him.


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No, it's a comment on your bloody minded ignorant blinkered attitude verging on Asperger's syndrome.


Do you mind, why have asperger sufferers got to be compared to that guy ?

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Nor are we the 'Pro-Speed' lobby. Christ, does it take a hammer to get through your thick skull?



We're the SAFE SPEED lobby. As in: "Driving At A Safe Speed For The Conditions"


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gatsos forever wrote:
I know that you will disagree with everything I have written, but, then again, it's not easy to convince people who hate the law to stick to it.




Likewise when cyclists defend pavement cycling, not using lights, jumping red lights.... :popcorn:


Yeah.. sure they "stick to the law" or does the law only apply to every other road user but them?

I note that when measures to bring them to book.. like make them register - they all "up in arms"

Why? If you stick to the law after all.. you have nothing to fear :hehe:

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gatsos forever wrote:
civil engineer wrote:
Theres no such thing as a 'loophole'.

there is simply the law.

You are either in accordance with it or not.

and exceeding the speed limit means you are breaking the law. So, why would a 'respectable' group like SS be allowing a legal firm that supports people who break the law, to advertise on their website, unless SS supports people who break the law?


I wish I lived in your simple black and white world.

Are you saying that if you are accused of an offence such as exceeding the speed limit then you are guilty?


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allowing a legal firm that supports people who break the law


That's what all legal firms do for anyone they represent who has been accused of any offence. The advice will vary depending upon whether the person pleads guilty or innocent of course.

Are you saying that you would not want a solicitor's advice in the event that you were accused of an offence, because they would be supporting you?


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I know that you will disagree with everything I have written, but, then again, it's not easy to convince people who hate the law to stick to it.



Likewise when cyclists defend pavement cycling, not using lights, jumping red lights.... :popcorn:


Yeah.. sure they "stick to the law" or does the law only apply to every other road user but them?

I note that when measures to bring them to book.. like make them register - they all "up in arms"

Why? If you stick to the law after all.. you have nothing to fear :hehe:



I don't break the law in my bedroom but I wouldn't want a camera in there just because others do break the law in that place.

Well, why not Gatsos Forever? Where do you draw the line? If they made it law I'm sure you'd be in favour of it and obey it every day. (or should that be night)

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Sixy_the_red wrote:
gatsos forever wrote:
civil engineer wrote:
Theres no such thing as a 'loophole'.

there is simply the law.

You are either in accordance with it or not.

and exceeding the speed limit means you are breaking the law. So, why would a 'respectable' group like SS be allowing a legal firm that supports people who break the law, to advertise on their website, unless SS supports people who break the law?


Safespeed doesn't choose the adverts....

Safespeed doesn't choose the adverts....

Safespeed doesn't choose the adverts....

Safespeed doesn't choose the adverts....

Safespeed doesn't choose the adverts...

Are we getting the point yet?

Do you think that's true? SS is going to accept adverts from any low-life that is pro-speed


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Yes its true! Google ads place the ads there, based on algorithms their servers use to target the ads based on the content of the page. Clearly with widely ranging forum topics there is a lot of scope for what can end up advertised on a page. One another forum I frequent a seemingly innocuous topic resulted in loads of ads for adult diapers and incontinence pads!

Notice the little tag in the corner that says 'Ads by Google'. Then wise up.


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I think gf thinks they are hand picked, bless him/her.

I used to frequent a forum where one guy's sig had (don't ask) the word cowbell in it, meaning whenever he posted the forum featured adverts for obscure musical instrument vendors.....


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Do you think that's true? SS is going to accept adverts from any low-life that is pro-speed


I despair. If you were any more stupid you'd forget to breathe.

Watch this. It's specially to demonstrate what the google adbots do:-

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What do the adverts on this page say now?

Oh nevermind. I give up. You're just another C+ oxygen thief.

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[Do you think that's true? SS is going to accept adverts from any low-life that is pro-speed


Listen mate, don't take our word for it - get someone who knows about the internet to have a look at the HTML source for this page, and ask them if there's anything funny about how those ads are sourced. End of!

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Chavicide shouldn't be a crime...


Indeed, it should be seen as a service to the community! :jester:

(But don't tempt me - I have got a shotgun certificate!)

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I see that "gatsos forever" has signally failed to answer the posts from me, Barkstar and Odin.

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