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does anyone know if there is a maximum allowable distance in law between speed limit repeater signs

I only ask as an unlit road I often drive along has a 40 MPH limit but there are no repeaters at all over about 1.5 Miles of it, another thing is that there are regular repeaters where it becomes lit!!

thanks

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They are meant to be "at regular intervals", whatever that means. The distances used to be defined.

Useful information:
ABD Speed limit signage

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Andrew.

See:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/d ... 04746.hcsp

These are only recommendations, but I would expect an absence of repeaters for 1½ miles would make a limit unenforceable.

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thanks very much you two

thinking about it I think this stretch of road may be NSL with an illegal 40 MPH limit on it for a number of points

1) it is not in a built up area and actually passes through agricultural land

2) for the main part of this roads length it is unlit

I don't suppose anyone on this forum will know it but just in case they do, it runs along the "Back" of the Jaguar Browns lane plant lol

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Is that the jag plant in liverpool? if it is I might get bored an go ave a look some time

Browns Lane is Jaguar Coventry.
fatboytim

Oh well, not drvin that far

if you did you would most likely see an Illegal Speed Limit!

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Send the local highways authority a request for the traffic order for that road. under the freedom of information act 2000

It might be that there are a number of speed limited zones but people have nicked the terminal signs as they are made from aluminium.

This abd page is good on signs.
and it sounds like a "principle road"

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yup.. its a painful bit of road to drive down at 40.

It's not illegal is it? Just unenforceable. Well, I say "just", that's pretty d@mn important!

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They recently built a SC bypass round my home town. It has lights all the way along, but no speed limit signs or repeaters along the entire length. Upon leaving the bypass one enters the town and are greeted with 40 limits.

I've always taken this bypass to be a NSL/60 limit but I've never been 100% convinced. I've never seen police cars or talivans on it either though. Occassionally one does find a car doing 30 along it, but most people take it to be 60mph.

I should add there are no limit signs entering or leaving the new section of road. The lamp posts start and end, but that's it.

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Do they still do that then? Or is it only a Barnett Formula thing?

i felt like a detour on the way home & cycled down the wedge southbound.

repeaters are fairly frequent apart from one section where none are visible for some way..... the gap is just over a mile there.

(was also amused by the 40 repeater about 5metres before the 30limit at the roundabout at the end)

this is exactly what I was trying to say, this looks like an unenforcable limit to me?

do you live in Cov ed_m as I do

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indeed i do.

dunno if its unenforceable just cos you can't immediately see a repeater, at 40 that would be 90seconds between repeaters, could you really argue that you forgot the limit in that time?

given the best you could hope for over the approx. 2 mile stretch is NSL/60mph (not accounting for slowing for the jag roundabout), you've only lost 1minute of journey time.

the other issue is that on that stretch there are a few crossing points between where footpaths & bridleways cross the road. as was the case last night where two school kids crossed ahead of me.

(the reason i wanted to go and check is that i was a marshall team leader for the wedge section of the half marathon last year.. and distinctly remember re-attaching one of the mile markers to a repeater post)

I recon that repeaters should be placed at 7 (and not more than 10) second intervals for a driver traveling at the posted limit.

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I have a slightly different view - I reckon as you pass one repeater, another one should be coming into view (so on a very windy or overgrown road, for example, they would be closer together)

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COAST Not just somewhere to keep a beach.

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Yeah, if speed limits are important then they should be made obvious for their entire length!

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