Safe Speed Forums

Having got 9 points (3x3) for unintentionally speeding (slightly) over the last couple of years I welcome the day GPS speed limiters are installed as standard on cars.

I'm no speed demon and can do without fines and loss of license. My last 3 points we for going at 30 just north of Tower Bridge where I'd not noticed it was a 20 zone.

Sooo....

I am looking for a product that will warn me when I exceed the speed limit for a given stretch of road.

I am not referring specifically to sections with speed cameras, I would like to be warned about excessive speed regardless of whether there is a camera.

I just want a bit of help adhering to the limits - regardless of whether there is a camera watching.

Any advice (helpful that is) apreciated.

Let's see if you are still saying that after you get T-boned because the ability to get out of the way was taken away from you.


No offence, but that's your own fault for not paying attention.


SatNav will do that.

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What makes you think I'm drunk officer, have I got a fat bird with me?

If your own lack of observation is reason for your support for speed limiters then you have a more serious problem than just speeding.

I drive 50,000 miles a year and still have no points. That is not to say that I don't drift over the limit from time to time and I am sure I will get points at some stage but your reason for supporting speed limiters is daft.

If I had 9 points I would drive as though I was on my driving test until I was at least 3 points clear of a ban. I would also invest in all the available top of the line camera detection equipment.

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Speed camera policy Kills

Like the others, I dread that day ever coming. You only have to look at the way some (not all) HGV drivers behave on motorways since limiters on trucks became compulsory. And since there's an increasing number of drivers who believe that they're safe as long as they're below the limit I'm sure standard GPS limiters will make things more dangerous. These folks will think "Oh, I've got a limiter now, that'll keep me below the speed limit and everything will be rosy" - right up to the point they run off the road or hit someone else because they no longer feel any responsibility to consider what is the safe speed for the conditions. Limiters can only keep you legal, they can't keep you safe because the speed limit can't hope to define safety.


Are they recent? Can you still fight them? If it's not too late visit the forums at www.pepipoo.com for advice on that. If it's done and dusted then, not wishing to sound unsympathetic, your best bet is to take the lead out of your boot for a while. Most urban limits aren't too unreasonable anyway, though IIRC Tower Bridge is a funny one. I think I've heard the 20 limit there is to prevent/reduce long term damage to the bridge. I'm no engineer so whether that's a lame excuse or not I really couldn't say, and in any event whenever I've been over it I'd consider myself bloody lucky to be doing half that. Upper Thames Street is another kettle of fish entirely - if you were pinged there then I can sympathise, and if you were pinged by the infamous SPECS-camera-in-the-wrong-place you may still be able to get it reversed. Again, ask at Pepipoo.


An Origin B2 will both warn you and remind you of the limit when approaching cameras and (I think) the favourite lurking spots for the Talivans. Other GPS systems may be able to do the same everywhere regardless of cameras, but personally I think the constant electronic nagging would drive me nuts. And again, like a limiter it's only good for keeping you legal and on it's own won't help you avoid a crash. If it makes you spend too much time checking your speedo and not enough looking at the road it might make you more likely to crash. If I were you I'd consider a B2 or something like it that warns you when you're at risk of being pinged and the rest of the time lets you get on with the buisness of driving safely.

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Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler - Einstein

I had 9 points for about six months and can only offer comisserations. Look forward to every trip being one of paranoia, and your driving (particularly observation) skills deminishing to the point where you no-longer feel you can drive safely.

I would recommend the Origin B2, it does indeed point out a lot of the talivan lurking points. I'm not aware of any GPS system that can tell you the speed limits for all roads, and besides that information would be out of date within days of the updated maps being published as they keep changing the limits (as you have already found out)

I'm down to 6 points now (will be 3 in october!) but my driving isn't really improving. I'm going to have another go at IAM once I manage to find a job that does not involve driving all day.

I had 10 points on my licence around 1992 for two CD offences - the first one I got 4 points and the second 6 points and they were both for overtaking, and both times I was pulled over by police. I got another similar offence and 6 points but that was late 1996 so all my points had expired, and since then I've had nothing.

Actually I've never been got by a GATSO and on the whole I stick to the speed limits or don't stray too far from them. I do think there is too much paranoia about doing 35mph in a 30 though - on an empty road, of course, not too built up or at a quiet time.

I suggest that those on 9 points should consider getting limiters fitted but don't force them on everyone please.