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I absolutely agree with you Malcomw and I have been say the same thing for years!.......Planners?........Pah!


A BYPASS is just that......a BYPASS, a means of keeping through traffic away from local traffic.

It seems however that our highly paid town planners haven't got a grip of this concept and the first thing they do is to provide lots of junctions and access points along the: "Bypass" for "local" traffic to use as a short cut.............

A BYPASS gentlemen is a BYPASS..........."BYPASS"...........verstehen sie?..........you understand Eenglish?.......it's a BYPASS!! Right? Don't put access junctions along them, all you're doing is creating another "town centre".....On the BYPASS...........My god I despair of these people!

Try this one then.

My hometown in Cornwall have been bickering about a bypass for 30 years now. Nimbys on one side of town say it should go the other side, while Nimbys there say it should go the other side. The net result is that they are still arguing. There is already a road which bypasses the town, and with careful thought would suffice were it widened and straightened a little.
Do the idiots accept this? Nope.

They have, in the last few years, changed the speed limit signs so the 30 zone extends nearly a mile out of town. Then they changed a junction so it emerged 100 yds furthur down the road to give the traffic a better view which has made turning onto the main road a real risky business because everyone can see the traffic better so bugger the speed limit.
They are planning to put in a roundabout at the end of town but that hasn't happened because they still are not sure which route they would use.
Instead of using some sense, they have now narrowed the street to make it wide enough for a single flow and stuck traffic lights in the main street so the queues are worse than ever. This is the A39 trunk road, not a back alley. This is a route designated as a holiday route by morons. They actually took the original holday route away, even though it actually bypassed the town.

Worst of all. A number of years ago I was walking home after a Saturday night in a strange bed. It was early in the morning and one of the town councillors was walking through the town. He told me he was checking the pollution meter to see how bad it had been the previous day, and I managed to get him to admit that he had driven the half mile to check it. He is pro-bypass, and had been banging on about air pollution since it became fashionable. I actually got thrown out of the council meeting when I collared him about this.

In short, no way do bypasses work for tinpot provincial towns. They may well work when it comes to places like Newbury. I have to admit that life was a little easier after that one opened.

Then again, the M25 is nothing more or less than a big ring road. That works really well----- Not!!!

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You say that...but imagine london without the M25!!!

I can remember it pretty much. It was hells cauldron then and just got worse. Wherever they build a bypass or ringroad the motorists use it for short local hops to avoid a set of lights between their house and the school and the roads become congested. Then some bright spark buils an out of town supermarket and causes more congestion while the bypassed town withers and dies because nobody goes in there any more.
Net result is a ghost town. Wonderful, traffic free streets with vacant shops and graffiti. Then the councils spend even more money on regeneration projects which give the vandals even more to target and the little shits can get away with it because there are no motorists to see them and call the old bill.
Major centres with heavy daily traffic is one thing, but the whole nation has bypass fever. They cannot work as they are imagined to work. The original poster here was totally right.

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