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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4947284.stm

Speaking outside the court, he said: "Speeding is a killer and I have campaigned all my life against speeding. Therefore the sentence on me, although massively inconvenient, is just.

What utter fecking hypocrisy.

"I have campaigned all my life against speeding" but whilst doing so in the last three years he has been caught 5 times speeding. I wonder what the non current license history would look like.

The twit needs to keep his gob shut when he leaves court.

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Former Military Police Officer and accident investigator

Speaking of the offences, he added: "Both times the condition was a clear stretch of road with no one else in the camera frame and no imminent danger to anyone else.

Pretty careless though, to be caught 5 times in 3 years.

Absolutely. He clearly speeds more than the average driver. If he truly believes 'speeding is a killer' why doesn't he turn himself in for a substantial prison sentence? It really annoys me that politicians never get called on this sort of hypocrisy.

I believe that Mr Kinnocks case illustrates perfectly the two faces of the 'speeding' issue. He says he campaigns against speeding and yet is a serial speeder himself, obviously he is campaigning against other peoples speeding which is the killer, not his own.
Mr Kinnock is not alone of course, he sits alongside dozens of others:

Local residents who arm themselves with speed cameras and then catch their neighbours
Ministers for Transport
Police officers
Safety camera vans
SafeSpeed hecklers
Etc, etc

What a nonsense.

It must really hurt him to have made that statement .

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Useless laws weaken necessary laws.

Doesn't this just highlight perfectly the argument for appropriate speed for the conditions?

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Why can't we just use Common Sense?

Maybe he should be drafted into the M4 camera campaign since it was them that finally busted him.

At the very least he is another name for the "Celebrity Speeders" list



Strange, I thought this was the worst kind of antisocial behaviour....well you live and learn.

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Speed camera policy Kills

Safe Speed issued the following PR by GPRS cellular at 16:20 this afternoon:

PR308: Neil Kinnock - hypocrite

news: for immediate release

Following news reports regarding Neil Kinnock being banned from driving after
being caught speeding 5 times in three years...

The BBC reports that Neil Kinnock said: "Speeding is a killer and I have
campaigned all my life against speeding,"

Paul Smith, founder of the Safe Speed road safety campaign
(www.safespeed.org.uk) said: "It just goes to show that politicians with high
ideals cannot keep to their own rules. Neil Kinnock, you are a hypocrite of the
first order."

"Experienced drivers know, as if by instinct, how fast to drive. We are very
good at choosing safe and appropriate speeds irrespective of the speed limit.
We will not get road safety back on track while this essential road safety
skill remains undervalued."

"Safety and the law are heading off in opposite directions - someone must get a
grip and quick."

<ends>

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

MAYBE he agreed to tout the speed adherance case in return for a lesser ban?

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

Well I expect Mr Kinnock will be ok and now be provided with a car and chauffer at taxpayers expense.
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Maybe Blairs bitch can drive. It could help to pay off her hair dressers bill.

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Speed camera policy Kills

Well perhaps Mr Prescott's ex totty is now looking to help someone else.
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Hi Paul,
This is the high profile type of friend we need. He is ripe for the message - he knows he wasn't driving dangerously and the inconvienience of the system. ( he's a politician hence the apology and remorse and no use of hardship - no days of press hounding ). A nice letter explaining the case against speed cameras and asking for more independant research might give you a friend in high places.

Regards

Richard

He knows he wasn't driving dangerously yet was still able to slot straight into his duplicitous don't-do-as-I-do mode for the waiting gutter press. Not the sort of friend anyone needs in my opinion.

He spent years in Brussels as Transport Commissioner presiding over the roll-out of the current cancer of europe-wide automatic taxation systems and later as Vice-President helping run one of the most corrupt gravy trains in history.

If he was ever going to speak out against injustice he would have done it by now. God knows he has helped create enough of it.

No thanks.

Yes, this is the main problem. Local residents witter about a speeding problem outside their house - but are perfectly happy to speed outside everyone else's house.

I tend to agree with HalcyonRichard, he could hardly publically say anything else without jeapordising his position.

But an appropriate approach from SafeSpeed would probably appeal to his privately-held feelings of injustice. Then perhaps subtley and intelligently he could use his influence to the benefit of real road safety - which means supporting the SafeSpeed cause.

Perhaps he could also have a "friendly" word with his fellow-Welshman Mr. Brunstrom over a pint of Brains SA, if they bump into each other at the Eisteddfod . All IMO of course.

hardly surprising that a polititian is seen as being hypocritical! Wonder how many more have been caught whilst going to/leaving Westminster? Is it any different to myself or countless others who commute to work daily?

Why should the solicitor point out that there were no other vehicles in the picture frame ~ TSM will tell you speeding is speeding and is punishable by the severest means available. SPEED = DEATH, if you speed you are a murderer. B*ll*cks.

Saying that, 5 times in 3 years, how unlucky is he!!

About time the polititians got a taste of their own medicine.

I do genuinely feel sorry for the guy. I don't know him at all, but I cannot believe that he would have been driving in a dangerous manner. Therefore, just having been banned, I would think he is a prime candidate for SS to approach?

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Pecunia Prius Equitas et Salus

Hi Scamper good point. Its about 15% of the population have a speeding ticket so 15% of about 635 Means about 95 M.P.'s with at least one ticket. If the SCP's carry on they will be in the majority

Richard