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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 19:34 
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reading various forums on the web and from discussions at work it is evident that many motorists do not know the speed limit in the area that they are driving,

imagine the scenario you enter a town and pass :30: entry signs it is possible in many cases that you could travel several miles inside this 30mph area, in reality the only reminder you might legally see is an :880: ,

today i was in my van watching the council maintenace crews repainting the lamposts, in our area we have wooden, metalic silver, battleship grey, green and a bluey colour lamposts, although the majority are greyish

a thought came into my head why not have lamposts designed to suit the speed limit, ie a 30 mph area grey lamposts repainted say red / or a grey lampost with 20ft of hooped red, a 40 mph area blue lamposts / grey lampost with 20ft blue hooped etc etc

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If the scamerati were really interested in road safety and motorists keeping to /knowing the speed limits , then out of the profits (that they can't stop hmg getting) they could put up the legal signage --- :880: etc
What chances two councils ,let alone two counties choosing the same colour for lamp posts.


Nice idea, but this is the scametati private speeding industry uk, not some highly organised third world country.

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Many drivers are colour-blind to varying degrees. Colours don't show up properly at night.

It would make it prohibitively expensive for councils to slash speed limits, though :o

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Many drivers are colour-blind to varying degrees. Colours don't show up properly at night.

It would make it prohibitively expensive for councils to slash speed limits, though :o


That was one of my reasons for the legal sign - Pete - would the SCP /council willingly shell out again for a new sign ??
But again , putting them up out of SCP budgets would show their commitment to safety ( oops , thats not their purpose in life)

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oh come on.. its not (generally) difficult to tell you're in a 30zone... ok not everyone reads all the indicators, more fool them.


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botach wrote:
If the scamerati were really interested in road safety and motorists keeping to /knowing the speed limits , then out of the profits (that they can't stop hmg getting) they could put up the legal signage --- :880: etc
What chances two councils ,let alone two counties choosing the same colour for lamp posts.


Nice idea, but this is the scametati private speeding industry uk, not some highly organised third world country.


botach please dont take everything i write as the official SCP line, just an awareness initative on my behalf, in an ideal world if there was not a speeding problem then there would not be SCP, but there are

i take your point with regard to colour blindness on board peterE butits a start

for anyone (without a colour blindness problem) driving on a motorway you have blue signs, A / trunk roads green signs etc etc

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I like the idea, but instead of speed limits how about having red ones outside junctions / schools etc, blue ones where there are relatively few hazards, yellow ones in between... That sort of thing.


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Hey, CO you're QUOTING splendidly!! :D

A question.

If you join a main road, and it has a fixed camera on it, shouldn't the exit from the side road have a camera warning sign, just as it would have a speed limit lolipop if the side road was a different speed?

If it didn't have such a warning, and the driver received a NIP because he was unaware of the camera, should he protest, or just pay up?
A while back I encountered a junction where the lollipops were staggered - ie not on opposite sides of the road, but several yards apart. The limit sign is easily missed if a vehicle is passing the other way, as your attention is given to safely passing it in a narrow stretch.

Any thoughts? :roll:

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botach please dont take everything i write as the official SCP line, just an awareness initative on my behalf, in an ideal world if there was not a speeding problem then there would not be SCP, but there are


CO - not taking it that way, just being very cynical ( tend to get that way when a County councillor cant get trees cut round cams, and our lot hide vans in trees/hide cams behind signs)-as i said if the powers that be were that keen on safety as opposed to cash - they wouldn't have to be forced to be honest - not your fault, i know.

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Ernest Marsh wrote:
Hey, CO you're QUOTING splendidly!! :D

A question.

If you join a main road, and it has a fixed camera on it, shouldn't the exit from the side road have a camera warning sign, just as it would have a speed limit lolipop if the side road was a different speed?

If it didn't have such a warning, and the driver received a NIP because he was unaware of the camera, should he protest, or just pay up?
A while back I encountered a junction where the lollipops were staggered - ie not on opposite sides of the road, but several yards apart. The limit sign is easily missed if a vehicle is passing the other way, as your attention is given to safely passing it in a narrow stretch.

Any thoughts? :roll:


was the side road a primary or secondary road,

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It would probably be cheaper to put a speed limit repeater on every lamppost than repaint the lampposts.

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It would probably be cheaper to put a speed limit repeater on every lamppost than repaint the lampposts.


Possibly --but at least if the SCP s were given the option to post repeaters, we'd see which ones were in it for road safety or cash.

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you could fit three four or five reflective bands to lamp posts to define the limit much cheaper and a chequer band near hazards such as hospitals, schools and village halls

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you could fit three four or five reflective bands to lamp posts to define the limit much cheaper and a chequer band near hazards such as hospitals, schools and village halls


Take it 3 = 30 etc - now can see the spray merchants having fun - go down a 40 stretch, paint out one band for a length and watch the fun - make a total mockery of speedlimits ( well more than it is at present anyway)

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PeterE wrote:
It would probably be cheaper to put a speed limit repeater on every lamppost than repaint the lampposts.


but not in a 30

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These are legal repeaters - :880: -otherwise lots & lots of 30s are not legal.

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botach wrote:
These are legal repeaters - :880: -otherwise lots & lots of 30s are not legal.


someone tell him please

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These are legal repeaters - :880: -otherwise lots & lots of 30s are not legal.


someone tell him please


All right then - reminders - happy now

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Southampton City Council paints its street furniture yellow outside schools, such as bus shelters, lamp posts and railings. This emphasises the presence of the schools.


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sotonsteve wrote:
Southampton City Council paints its street furniture yellow outside schools, such as bus shelters, lamp posts and railings. This emphasises the presence of the schools.


does it work

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