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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 09:20 
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If anyone knows the junction of the A591 into Windermere, or has negotiated this on a bike, you will know that to take your hand off the bars to signal, or to look over your shoulder is dangerous, and likely to result in serious injury.

It's down hill, with a long sweeping lefthand lead into the road, AND to make matters worse, the entrance to Windermere Station, is off the junction on the left - which tempts oncoming drivers to scoot through gaps in traffic straight into the station approach.
Finally the Tourist Information Centre is on the far corner of the Station approach, and is frequented by drivers more interested in where they are going to stay that night, than in any cyclist approaching from their right!
The way a cyclist approaches this junction is a true test of whether they have common sense, or are simply thrillseekers with no fear of death!
In my opinion, there is no right way to approach safely, as every occasion depends on the actions of the various other participants.
All are at risk of a collision - but the cyclist is the one risking serious injury, and few car drivers take this into account. :x

I still feel that many cyclists are untrained nowadays, and should be made to take their part, or at least be tested to ensure a level of necessary competance.

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as a tangent...

alot of the rights of cyclists are derived from being treated the same as horses.. hence rights of way on bridleways.
i wonder how entangled this actually is in law and how easy it would be to break it...

cyclists may struggle to fight an attempt to implement tests/licenses, but i can't imagine the countryside alliance taking it lieing down if it involved their horses :lol:

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Ernest, if that bit of road is so dangerous that you can't ride properly, why don't you get off and walk :? :o

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Oscar wrote:
Ernest, if that bit of road is so dangerous that you can't ride properly, why don't you get off and walk :? :o

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Agreed! Which is why I said this:
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The way a cyclist approaches this junction is a true test of whether they have common sense, or are simply thrillseekers with no fear of death!
In my opinion, there is no right way to approach safely, as every occasion depends on the actions of the various other participants.


I am warning against having hard and fast rules - you need to be flexible!

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If it is who I suspect.... then darned right it would have been offensive. Not a nice story - best not to know... :roll: Let's just say ... if Sportacus is who I think he may be - person is not pleasant to even associate with on a remote internet chat site.


.. and yes .. I do know Ern - he has done work for my Golf and Rugby Clubs in the past. I have spoken to him maybe on phone on matter of engraving trophies some time back when I was "Secretary" of club for a one year term in 2003.

Not met Ian personally - but met one of his colleagues when we had a burglary and another inteviewing me over some medical matter - he is well regarded by his peers.

Wildy phoned Paul to inform him about action being taken to stop this unpleasant character spinning untruths all over the internet. Wildy is an astute linguist (despite her spelling) and her words to me after her conversation - "trustworthy - definitely a nice chap"

Have met a few PH-ers on track days and two/three persons who post to C+ when a spectator at ToB (Cumbrian stage) last summer....decent, pleasant and people I am glad to arcknowledge as people I am privileged to have conversed with. I doubt "Sportacus" if he is who Paul thinks he is has any interest in cycling, driving as only interest appears to be "arguing for the sake of it"

Admit I missed the post so no idea what he posted ... but Paul as site owner does have IP addresses and e-mail data - and if he says person is known troll - then based on how Paul comes across on here and on radio , in media and on phone to Wildy and she pushed the conference key in case I wanted to add to the conversation..l am more inclined to trust Paul's integrity than someone who libels him and my wife's family on unrelated sites... :roll: without anything to back up his stupendously absurd claims.

Now do you get picture... and I am not going to expand on anything more as a lot of this is now sub judice

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