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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 01:42 
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weepej wrote:
botach wrote:
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Botach discovers that there are complete tossers out there on bikes .


Something I've long said(and known from observation), but you've long said don't exist( Perhaps you cycle with blinkers on to the ils of the cycle fraternity- as in Cycling farm ,where two wheels are good and anymore are bad). Perhaps after this long awaited admission, we should expect a blizzard or an apology to all those folks you've accused of being anti cyclists , and as a bonus , a reply to some of the questions you so conveniently manage to ignore.


I've never said that, it's all in your imagination I'm afraid!

Long awaited admission?

What questions have I ever ignored? I've asked this before, you've never come up with an example.

This is getting totally off topic - please start a new topic if you wish to debate the points about cyclists behaviour.

Re 'questions' - weepej you know that there are many questions that I and others (especially) Steve, have put to you and they remain unanswered. No I am not going to go looking for them.
This ends this tête-à-tête, anything added to this, will be edited out. Final notice to get back on topic.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 00:20 
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Just as an aside (sorry for the thread drift) does anyone have any accurate figures for stopping distance in the dry from (say) 20 or 30 MPH for a pushbike? An "average" road one would be nice, but just to get us in the ball park, any pushbike at all, with any kind of brakes. Just curious.


And tonight's quick test concludes that i need a better data logger (or at least to turn smart logging off).

Road bike, standard brakes/pads on alloy rims. Dry smooth tarmac.
At limits of rear wheel locking.

Stop 1: 7.96mph to 0, 3seconds = 1.18 m/s/s = 5.3m
Stop 2: 8.65mph to 0, 6seconds = 0.64 m/s/s = 11.598m

Instantaneous speed at start of stop was faster, but not recorded so taken first point during the stop. Second stop was definitely longer distance but not as much as half the rate / twice the distance!

Best I can do on this device is 1sec log interval. Wonder if the vbox from work will run off a few AA batteries :lol:



OOoo thanks, I missed this one! Was that using the front brake as well? Seems to be quite a difference between the two stops though. I have to say I'm surprised at how long it took to stop. That's only (about) 0.1G deceleration of you (sort-of) average the two. I'd be looking at MUCH better than that in a car (maybe 0.7G)? I have to say this bears out my own observations that pushbikes are AWFUL at stopping. It's probably not been an issue in the past where they rarely did more than about 20MPH, but now they can go quite a bit faster, I'm wondering whether we need to introduce some sort of minimum requirement? On downhill stretches, my cheap mountain bike will easily get up to 30 MPH (and I'm quite fat) so stopping it is quite a feat!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 07:56 
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I think the conclusion is that the data sucks. I only have 1 sec resolution at best and a heavily filtered speed measurement.

And yes I use both brakes :roll:
Mostly the front as the rear was at the point of locking.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:26 
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Ta, yes, that seems reasonable to conclude! Now, about this V-box...

I might try something just using my bike speedo and measuring stopping distance only. Trouble is, I'm too fat to get up to much more than 20 on the flat!


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