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no sorry i dont have time to read everything these days, are the lights covered by RLC's



many moons ago the lad down the pub said that if you get caught by a RLC tell them you went through to let an emergency vehicle through, however when the film is studied / checked it was apparent that the said vehicle did not move aside but carried on merrily through the jnc, not to be followed by any emergency vehicle or any other queing traffic (ok i take on board the sequence might have changed)

i dont know how many RLC's there are in the country but i would hazard a guess they cover a tiny percentage of traffic lights, only those with an accident track record of red light jumping be it for whatever reason (que Steve RTTM)



the highways agency have a duty of obligation to repair failed light sequence under their emergency planning schedule, i am not sure whose responsibilty tempoary traffic light failure comes under, probably the works contractor theres normally a phone number on the generator

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You just reminded me ,Tone, I had better judge the cap comp (groan) before it gets covered in cobwebs. Well u aint won this time mate, your "subscription" hasn't come through in time...lol

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Have you tried these chaps...? http://www.banking-history.co.uk

We have a couple of old banks in Staveley, and they had info. on those.

To ID the age of the cars, compare with pictures from the Francis Frith collection.

I would guess 1955 - 1960 as cars tended to be fairly new in such locations, and the oncoming vehicle looks about that vintage!

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http://www.francisfrith.com/millom/photos/wellington-street-c1955_m277046/

go compare...?

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The county highways department for the area normally has responsibility. The Highways Agency only gets involved if it's one of their roads.

Not massively helpful but of interest :
here, here, and here.

You could try the SABRE forum (here).
Edited to add :
This here suggested that 3 coloured lights were introduced in '58.

Old classic car webpage here has many of the old signs and shows photos of former lights and signs too as well as the old Highways code signs too.
I can't see any dates that will help but have asked someone else who may shed some light on this.
Leading to an Amazon link to buy an old Signs book here.

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Thanks for all that, Claire. According to Sabre http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4253 three colour lights were introduced in 1926. I certainly don't remember two colour lights in the fifties.

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You are a member of SABRE, dcb, so you could post it on there. The District Bank was merged into the National Westminster in 1970, if that's any help. But it looks 1950s to me.

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There is a piccy of a 2 way light still in use on the Isle of Wight today ...in one of those links.

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generalisation steve

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_the_United_Kingdom

Despite the change to new signage in the 60s, some old signs remain!

Ings still had an old fashioned "torch" sign for the school until fairly recently - although the school went some time before it!

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I appreciate that but you'd be suprised at how many people get the two completely different organisations confused.

I have asked for ny assistance with this outside this forum and this thought came back today :

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Very useful, Claire. I will pursue the line about television.
As an aside it should be noted that whilst letter registrations were introduced in 1963 their use did not become compulsory until, ISTR, 1965.

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Winter Hill, which is the only major transmitter visible from the location came on line in May 1956. It i might have been a year or so before people installed sets so, from that, I would say it is pre 1957.

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Those "scalloped" edges were known as "deckle" edged - and it was cut on with a special guillotine with special matching ground blades.
I have one, and it dates back to 1965. I don't recall seeing any pictures much older than that with the same edge.

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Almost the same view as it is today:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&sourc ... 00427&z=19

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Gosh, I wonder what day and time that was taken - I've rarely seen it so quiet. Certainly not a Friday teatime when the chippies is open.

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When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

There are no road signs, metal railings to be seen. Could it be just after the war or are the cars too recent for that?

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My views do not represent Safespeed but those of a driver who has driven for 39 yrs, in all conditions, at all times of the day & night on every type of road and covered well over a million miles, so knows a bit about what makes for safety on the road,what is really dangerous and needs to be observed when driving and quite frankly, the speedo is way down on my list of things to observe to negotiate Britain's roads safely, but I don't expect some fool who sits behind a desk all day to appreciate that.

That must be it then. It's the increase in chippies wot's to blame

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