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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 17:59 
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graball wrote:
in that case you would expect MANY drivers to have accidents because they are driving too fast


No, you would expect given a scenario that could lead to a crash that many drivers would be crashing.

I can drive too fast down a road for the conditions, but if nothing untoward happens I'm going to get away with it.

I can probably drive at 50mph round a stationary ice cream van 100 times and nothing will happen, that doesn't mean I wasn't driving too fast.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 18:01 
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graball wrote:
Only a small proportion of these type of accidents result in a fatality or even serious injury



Yup, except when the come off a left hand bend and there happens to be a car coming the other way just at exactly the wrong time. A rare event, but if it happens a catastrophic one.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 18:50 
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What you're driving changes things too.


Very much so. I have just been re-reading (for the nth time) "The Racing Driver" by Denis Jenkinson. One sentence of his sums it up (and bear in mind he was writing in the late fifties) ..."The Humber Hawk that is invariably in the middle of the road and will never move over is probably going at two-tenths if you were driving; but the owner is at four-tenths as far as he is concerned, while the pre-war Morris 8 that overtakes you while you are trying to make up your mind about the Humber is more likely at eight-tenths."



I'm often surprised by the degree of lean of other cars when I'm following them round a bend.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 19:47 
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Yup, except when the come off a left hand bend and there happens to be a car coming the other way just at exactly the wrong time. A rare event, but if it happens a catastrophic one.


Yes but that wouldn't then be one of your, "falling off the road", type accidents but more like a head on, wouldn't it?

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graball wrote:
Yes but that wouldn't then be one of your, "falling off the road", type accidents but more like a head on, wouldn't it?


Well, yes, but it would have been a nice safe falling off the road type crash, had the other car not intervened.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 23:40 
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graball wrote:Yes but that wouldn't then be one of your, "falling off the road", type accidents but more like a head on, wouldn't it?



Well, yes, but it would have been a nice safe falling off the road type crash, had the other car not intervened.


Not necessarily, it could have been a "Oh look I'm onthe wrong side of the road but managed to correct it" type of incident.

Your problem is, you tend to over simplify driving, it's really not like a scalextric track wherby you are either "in the groove" or "falling off the track", real life driving has many variations on a perfect line around a perfect corner.

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