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Widcat, MadMoggie, In_Gear and Squirrel? I hope Squirrel hasn't had one "Crash or Near Miss" too many

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

For anyone interested, the result of the trial is online at thisisbristol (and presumably in the paper also).


EDITED - Admin Claire - [This Thread has been split from Here - Whatever became of ...]

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.

looks like his domain is going to lapse too.

Oh yeah... that isn't car related for sure...

unless....... no no.. that joke would be in bad taste.

oh.. and that one

But how do we know that the person in that report is the person who used to post on here as Squirrel?

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

The simplest way (although there are a few others) is looking at his profile. The company is there, and the company is mentioned in the news article.

You can also time the point from when he stopped posting to when he was taken into remand for breaking bail conditions.

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.

Thank you. That is convincing enough. An unpleasant man.

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When I see an adult on a bicycle, I do not despair for the future of the human race. H.G. Wells
When I see a youth in a motor car I do d.c.brown

Squirrel's account has been Deactivated.

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Interesting aspect to this case... social networking sites!

We hear all the time of perverts cruising social network sites looking for victims, yet here we have a 13 year old girl lying about her age, and posing for pictures having MET the perpetrator!

What on earth was she thinking of, and how much control do her parents have?

Anyone else feel that these sites are responsible for degrading society???

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Without trying to speculate too much to a glimpse of a news item, were she also abused it can follow that she 'didn't care' that much it may have not been a 'big leap' that most may perceive it to be.
It is not necessarily too much to do with the site itself but prior issues, she might have met someone in a park ... who knows .. the Internet can lick otherwise separated parties more easily for sure but can there should there ever be controls in action that don't negatively act on innocent others. I agree it all sounds very tragic and sad.

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Yes In fact I think most media is vulgar these days. The age of innocence has truly gone in this country and as for dumbing down... I have only to look in my local newsagents to see papers in full view on the bottom shelf daubed in salacious trash.

Exactly who are they trying to attract and what message are they putting forth? I can’t stand watching soaps either, for the same reason. I meet youngsters who are so obviously attempting to emulate the language and mannerisms it makes me puke.

Having just watched Top Gear, filmed in Vietnam, I think I could be happier over there amongst such wonderful people and beautiful surrounds. They said they have four times the KSI rate than the UK but I’ll take my chances. Oddly enough speed can’t be a major factor because 99% are on slow moving motorbikes and vehicles. Work that one out 'speed kills' proponents...

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You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

I feel I have to interject here. I cannot give details of this, for reasons that should be obvious. However, I will say that these girls were *very* vulnerable, and simply craving some sort of affection. The attention they recieved was fake, and sadly very devious in it's nature. While many people might think the girls were stupid, it was simply a case of niavity, and getting some wanted attention.

Of course, you only have my word on this, but I have told the truth about everything said so far - and given evidence when possible.

But social networking sites are absoloutly rife with this. Much much more than any of you even suspect. Even on facebook - the most popular and 'safest' one around - theres a constant flux of groups that spring up and get deleted, and appear again. It's actually very easy to find out.

The people that own these sites could do *far* more to combat this, but ultimately it will never be able to stop it. Quiet simply, parental guidance is required, and even then it can be difficult, since children can be extremely clever in hiding such things. And I will say now, social networking becoming common on mobile phones is definatly a bad thing as far as I'm concerned.

I have to admit I'm rather puzzled at the fact this member is only banned now. Why he wasn't when I submitted all the evidence of law breaking (cloned plates), road rage and other instances I do not know. In theory, this website is to improve driving, so someone getting banned for such charges in the paper shouldn't really affect membership. But lying about driving instances, causing and having road rage, not to mention various dangerous instances should have more cause for ban imo.

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.

I still don’t get it Either me or my wife, at the time, always knew where our daughter was, who she was with and what she was doing. Is the latest PC thing to allow your children to do what the hec they like otherwise they cry that their parents are being cruel by restricting their freedoms?

On your last point, (not that I personally know of course), but like so many things if you ban or chastise too soon you’re labelled harsh and if too late you dithered. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

But did you Tone? (I'm not insulting, being devils advocate). When she says shes at xxxx you beleive her, no? How many times have you seen parents saying 'but she said she was at her friends, and we never had cause to disbeleive her, she was such an honest girl, she always told the truth to us.' on a news article? A fair few.

On my last point, I can only assume you didn't see the post full of evidence befoe it was deleted.

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.

All people have to be responsible for their own actions.
All parents need to be open to problems and be prepared to really listen and be very aware of their children, where they are and how to deal with problems. Children need discipline as well as love and care.

I have no qualms in deactivating his account, that is my decision and it is final.

If people have driving problems then I am happy to try to help.
This thread is in danger of going off topic ...

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Indeed it is, although I felt it definatly worth clarifiying that the victims were indeed victims, and not to lessen what some (I don't know details of some) suffered. I don't mind admitting that such assumptions that 'she didn't care' and that it's wasn't such a leap anger me greatly. Actually, it makes me very angry, since it comes across to me as total presumption of the facts, although I accept I'm biased knowing more of the facts than published. I hope it's realised I'm holding a great deal back!

Actually, I think it's disgusting. In this matter I don't see why I should hold back against such talk.

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.

I read the passage where it said they were vulnerable - and the ploy used to make them feel guilty - so I guess for one reason or another they were not getting well cared for either at home, or within the care system.
Which makes the social networks part in this all the more reprehensible.

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Time to take responsibility for our actions.. and don't be afraid of speaking out!

The way I meant that is not the way that you have taken it. When people are abused they go one of two (typical) routes - they can become very promiscuous or very frigid. The 'wasn't such a leap' referred to the potential damage that prior incidents may have already caused.

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Prior incidents? You make the assumption one or more of these were previously abused, which is not the case! This has gone very far off topic, I can only hope I have the wrong end of the stick. Can I suggest that no-one try and second guess the circumstances when they have no knowlage of the situation? Perhaps close it, as it seems to have served it's purpose anyway.

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If you think everyone else around you is driving badly, perhaps it's time to examine your own driving.