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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 20:37 
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Abercrombie wrote:
As for the uniforms, well they did have a bit of thing for that S&M look! And they pulled it off at least as well as Mr. Mosley, didn't they?


What a clever link to bring the thread back to motoring! :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 20:41 
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I'm going down the pub to talk to the drunks....I might get some sensible conversation out of them...nite alll ...;-)

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graball wrote:
I'm going down the pub to talk to the drunks....I might get some sensible conversation out of them...nite alll ...;-)


where are you going? We'll come and join you incase there are no drunks in tonite.


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Lucy W wrote:
I assume thats BMW?


Yes, and because you've pulled me up on it, I'll tell you a fact. The logo is a propeller!

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graball wrote:
I'm going down the pub to talk to the drunks....I might get some sensible conversation out of them...nite alll ...;-)


I'd join you, but there's no smoking now. Those numpties in parliament put a stop it. Yet they can still smoke in the bars in thier buildings, the swines.


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Lucy W wrote:
What a clever link to bring the thread back to motoring! :lol:


I didn't think anyone would notice. You've made my day...


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 21:12 
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Abercrombie: A propeller? Well I never knew that. Just glanced at the logo and would have thought it was a crash test marking, but then I don’t think anyone would buy a car that looked as if it was about to under go a NCAP test. So can I assume that Bayerishe Motoren Werke had an aviation background or did this logo come in later. I know the first BMW’s were Austin Sevens made under licence, called Dixi’s in 1927 - thank goodness they didn’t carry on like that and make Morris Marina’s!

I can’t see that Dixi’s had the BMW logo, but from my book I’m thumbing through the first sign of the BMW logo is a Dixi in 1931.

Ah ha, just discovered the aviation link. Bayer Flug-zuegwerke AG was a successful aviation company that BMW emerged from. They used aero engines in their cars – what a good idea, they should do that today! So I guess it was a bit like sticking Cosworth badges on Ford Escorts.


Come down our pub, everyone smokes down there – mind you they still hunt foxes with hounds around here so what can you expect. As Martin Luther Kings said “You have a moral duty to disobey an unjust law” (or something along those lines).


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Did you know that the German Military uniforms were designed by .... Hugo Boss. :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 23:17 
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malcolmw wrote:
Did you know that the German Military uniforms were designed by .... Hugo Boss. :)


Really? I hope you're not pulling my leg and going to make me look a muppet trying to impress my chums in the pub with my trivia!
Nevertheless, you can see the style.
My friend does battle re-enactment and there is a big do down south for all eras of war. But apparently her English civil war lot now boycot it because in the WW2 section the Nazi's out number the Tommies by about 10:1 and they feel 'uncomfortable' with that. I say to her, just look at the uniform. What would you rather strut around in?


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graball wrote:
that's ridiculous. If Britain was worried by un neccessary deaths we would do something about the 24,000 old people dying of cold JUST LAST WINTER. This would be easier to remedy.


That's very simplistic thinking and assumes that Britain (the British I assume) think logically. Also as Abercrombe said, is one life worth as much as another?

Anyway, one day we'll view the people dying of cold (incidentally they're not just old, they are the vulnerable young too), as just as big an outrage as the deaths on the roads. It's all about perspective. Then something will be done about your 24,000 deaths.


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Anyway, one day we'll view the people dying of cold (incidentally they're not just old, they are the vulnerable young too), as just as big an outrage as the deaths on the roads. It's all about perspective. Then something will be done about your 24,000 deaths.

Yeah, thermal imaging cameras, no doubt. If you go over 21degC you get sent a ticket 14 days later.

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Also as Abercrombe said, is one life worth as much as another?


Well, current events suggest that an Israeli life is worth about one hundred Palestinian lives. :(

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graball wrote:
So B Cyclist, why is a road that was safe at 60MPH yeasterday (70MPH pre 1975) only safe at 40MPH today?

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You seem to have missed the point.

Why does a road that never had a speed limit on it now have one?


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I give up B cyclist you tell me! No doubt you remember the days when roads didn't have speed limits?

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B cyclist wrote:
graball wrote:
So B Cyclist, why is a road that was safe at 60MPH yeasterday (70MPH pre 1975) only safe at 40MPH today?

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You seem to have missed the point.

Why does a road that never had a speed limit on it now have one?

(a) councillors' antipathy towards motorists has increased over the years, and
(b) changes in the law have made it easier for them to express that antipathy by imposing new curbs on motorists

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Lucy W wrote:
They used aero engines in their cars – what a good idea, they should do that today!


They do, at least in their motorcycles. The boxer twin is a form of "radial" aero engine. It has
the minimum number of cylinders (2) that a radial engine could have. It just has a shaft drive fitted at the back,
instead of a propeller at the front!!! Cool, eh?


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Lucy W wrote:
Come down our pub, everyone smokes down there – mind you they still hunt foxes with hounds around here so what can you expect.


Those red jackets, little brass bugles and the shiny leather boots are a bit kinky too. Couple that with a bit of animal torture, and you can see why they had to do away with it. But as long as they don't wear Nazi uniforms while they are at it, I don't mind.


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Abercrombie wrote:
Lucy W wrote:
They used aero engines in their cars – what a good idea, they should do that today!


They do, at least in their motorcycles. The boxer twin is a form of "radial" aero engine. It has
the minimum number of cylinders (2) that a radial engine could have. It just has a shaft drive fitted at the back,
instead of a propeller at the front!!! Cool, eh?

Can I interest you in a Terrafugia Transition sir? Yours for about £170,000 and road legal. I wonder what a flight numpty would do? Image

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Abercrombie wrote:

Those red jackets, little brass bugles and the shiny leather boots are a bit kinky too..


Being poor, my boots are plastic and I have a tweed jacket not a red one, but I do have the horn :twisted:


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Can I interest you in a Terrafugia Transition sir?


Big Tone, you have cracked it! Give all the Numpties Terrafugia Transition's and get accidents off the road.


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