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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:40 
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http://www.pistonheads.com/speed/defaul ... ryId=18481

At the top of the article, "the news comes as the government prepares for a massive expansion of cameras" - errr. where has this come from? anyone heard about this? If it's true then it's all been a massive waste of time, they just aren't listening or simply dont care...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:48 
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But separate figures seen by the Daily Mail show there were fewer prosecutions last year in two of the main categories which worry the public.

Dangerous driving cases fell by 1,100 to 7,400 and prosecutions for driving while drunk or on drugs were down from 103,500 to 101,400.

Despite the huge increase in speeding fines, Britain's record for reducing accidents is much worse than other countries.

The European Transport Safety Council says that between 2001 and 2005 there was a mere seven per cent reduction in the number of road deaths in Britain compared with a 25 per cent drop in Sweden and the Netherlands and 35 per cent in France.

Experts warn that too much emphasis is now placed on using cameras to trap motorists, at the expense of old-fashioned policing by officers in cars.

A Department for Transport spokesman said: 'Safety cameras are there to save lives, not make money.

'Independent research shows there are 1,745 fewer deaths and serious injuries at camera sites each year.'


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At camera sites.
Is that 1 less death and 1744 fewer injuries ?
Or 1744 fewer deaths and 1 less injury ?
Or are the figures just a smokescreen ?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:52 
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Is this possibly something to do with the alleged plans for a vast increase in a kind of "budget SPECS" cameras to enforce 20 mph limits in urban areas?

I have certainly noticed virtually no new conventional Gatso, Truvelo or Redspeed cameras in the past couple of years.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:26 
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'Independent research shows there are 1,745 fewer deaths and serious injuries at camera sites each year.'

What clasifies as a camera site anyway? The immediate area (camera + lines) or a certain distance before/after? Obviously the number doesn't take into account RTM but also, as Jom points out you've really got to seperate those figures into deaths / injuries. Not just that but the wording is bad. Each year? So each year it falls by 1,745 or 1,745 since cameras introduced? which could almost all be attributed to improved car safety features if so


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To take the figures at their idiotic ultimate:
In the last ten years there have been 17450 less deaths at camera sites.

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