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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 14:45 
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A small town in Germany which scrapped all its traffic lights and road signs in a bid to cut down on crashes reported yesterday that the experiment is 'a total success'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... signs.html


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 15:22 
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Very interesting and comes as no surprise to me. This is the spike sticking out from the steering wheel incentive again IMO. The more risk, the more you take care.

When I was coming back home the other week, on my motorbike, I picked up two bottles of beer which I had to stuff down my jacket. Heightened my already acute senses a little more to everything around me I can tell you.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 21:40 
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gpmgroup wrote:
A small town in Germany which scrapped all its traffic lights and road signs in a bid to cut down on crashes reported yesterday that the experiment is 'a total success'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... signs.html


Ive always said that getting rid of all our street furniture with few exceptions would improve things but Im not sure for how long. It will only be a matter of time before they all get used to it and complacency/ familiarity takes over. But if people have to concentrate more on their driving, their driving improves.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 02:41 
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This is nothing new. It's already worked in Seend near Devizes.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 00:59 
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RTTM? The sample was '1 month' after removal.

Kinda like the speed camera reduction claims in reverse, but as it's not about speed cameras, no-one here has bothered to mention it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 08:30 
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Why mention it ?
It has been said before; too many signs make driving harder than it should be.
Roundabouts with so many signs you cannot see oncoming traffic spring to mind.
What one of the newspaper aticles failed to mention, in the diatribe about how "drivers have to drive more carefully", is that it also forces pedestrians and cyclists to think as well. Much more important is that the dumbo with the ipod is forced to confront the reality of the world about him/her.
In any case, it will be hard, uphill, work trying to get it done anywhere near the uk....too many councils would have to be forced to think....a road without a multitude of signs telling you that there is a hill somewhere near....and that every side road is a 20 zone, with humps, and old people, and children, and that it is a no-cold-calling zone, with no parking on each side (on alternate days), with the flashing 20 sign (that is always wrong)(on a no-through-road)(with sign).

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Signs indicating nearby cashpoints, wi-fi hotspots and drive-thru takeaways would all be useful additions to the Highway Code, the survey found.

And a host of new warning signs pointing out the risk of urban foxes and skateboarders would also help drivers.

Some other signs – like the “children crossing” sign – should be updated to represent fashion by picturing a boy wearing a “hoodie,” drivers said.


http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/8783/How+15m+drivers+are+baffled+by+road+signs

Yeah, real-world-I-don't-think.

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RTTM? The sample was '1 month' after removal.

Kinda like the speed camera reduction claims in reverse, but as it's not about speed cameras, no-one here has bothered to mention it.


Daily Mail wrote:
Previously, there was at least one serious crash every week and scores of lesser 'fender-benders'.

Peter Hilbricht, a police officer in charge of traffic planning, added that the main intersection generated about 50 accidents a year before the changes.


Without reference to data obviously but implies a constant level for some time, I would agree that four weeks is early days yet. The police officer went on to say -

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'The number plummeted,' he said. 'It has been a sea-change in German attitudes as much as anything else.'


Which to me implies he thinks the drop may be due to a country-wide change not related to the changes they have made in the town. Perhaps the 'German attitudes' was misreported or translated and it should have been 'local'?

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jomukuk wrote:
Some other signs – like the “children crossing” sign – should be updated to represent fashion by picturing a boy wearing a “hoodie,” drivers said.


Presumably that sign would replace the current sign for "no parking - offending vehicles will be removed without warning"


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Some other signs – like the “children crossing” sign – should be updated to represent fashion by picturing a boy wearing a “hoodie,” drivers said.

If the sign is planted in a deprived inner city, would the "hoodie" be shown holding a knife while toking on a big phat one?

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