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If there's a pavement directly next to the NSL road and/or driveways then it sounds like you're in one of the few places that really does need the speed limit lowering. Either that or a bypass. Modifying behaviour works-but not in all cases. For example I bumped the kerb in the artic the other day when an owl flew across at my face height and nearly hit the windscreen. One distraction like that is enough to send a vehicle out of control and the last thing you want in a populated area is a vehicle going through a hedge into a garden at the NSL.

What really bugs me is where local councils extend speed limits so far past a village that people ignore them. For example Halford in Warwickshire where there's an extra 1/4 mile of 30 limit past the last driveway or gate.

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Smokebelching,CO2 making,child murdering planet raping,granny mugging,politically incorrect globally warming (or is it climate changing now it's getting colder?)thug.
That's what the government want you to believe of me. If they get back in I'm emigrating.

"Windrush"

LOL

He was the only PC who could speak Welsh.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Unlikely, Tone... Mr Gatsonides died in November 1998.

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"Politicians are the same the world over... We build bridges where there aren't any rivers." - Nikita Kruschev

And he was a surprisingly nice man, I'm told.

That's only true on a straight road. If the vehicles are approaching from around a bend even if the gap might was 30 seconds you might still only have 5 seconds visibility if they are doing 60mph but 10 seconds if they are doing 30mph.

Well he must be turning in his grave at the way they are being used(abused) today.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

No pavements, no drives directly on to the NSL road. All houses set well back. Just one of those situations where because we live in a sprawling sparsely-populated area that has a name but few houses, I could see plenty of campaigners wanting to reduce the NSL in that area because it's a "village".

Is that the very best you can do? A tired old cheap shot? Oh how we laughed. I'm guessing every time you see an AA van you think Anti-Aircraft and Royal Armoured Corps when you see an RAC one?????


From an MCN article and quoting Blunderstorm's blog:

"North Wales chief constable Richard Brunstrom is considering a blanket 40mph speed limit throughout Snowdonia National Park, he says in his online blog.

Richard Brunstrom blames the ‘all-pervading and incessant high-pitched whine of the motorbikes’ for ‘substantially spoiling the ambient grandeur’ and says a blanket new lower limit may fix the problem.

The blog entry says: ‘Perhaps a 40mph speed limit throughout the entire Park would resolve the engine noise issue - and a general slowing down of all traffic might be a further end in itself… I’m going to consider this some more.’

Brunstrom also says bike engine noise is ‘Quite remarkably intrusive’ and ‘enough to really irritate."

Is this desire for a 40mph limit a safety issue? No. And do we really want any Chief Constable who is so openly prejudiced against people who he serves? Most Chief Constables quietly get on with their job and most people in their care don't even know their name. Not so in Mr Brunstrom's case, his cognition has been brought into question several times and now he's become a byword for stupidity in public service and a household name as a result.


It's a lot of people to hate, since the vast majority of drivers on any single journey will speed, if only by a little and unintentionally.


Which law did you have in mind? There are one or two. And most don't involve a third party having the opportunity to move the goal posts when ever they feel like it, and with no need to justify doing so.

Barkstar

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The difference between intelligence and stupidity is that intelligence has limits.

I've noticed that Gatsos Forever refers to Speed Cameras as safety devices. Perhaps he could explain why they are safety devices, since all they do is fine a motorist many days, sometimes weeks after the alleged offence (yes it is alleged until proven).

However the fact that since the introduction of Gatsos we have seen a massive drop in taffic police, thus promoting serious criminal behaviour such as false registration, lack of driving licence, drink driving (below the posted speed limit), perverting the course of justice etc. etc. These offences are far more serious than speeding, and yet they are encouraged by the current system.

Quite right, but you are asking a fish to fly Odin. 'twould be easier to pass a camel through the eye of a needle than to get a sensible coherent rational reply from him. I'll eat my motorcycle helmet if he does and put it on U-Tube for all to see.

The only way any camera could be refered to as 'safety' is if I smacked a thug over the head with one.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Only if you were wearing a hi-viz and safety boots whilst you did it though...

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

"Alcoholics Anonymous" more likely!

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"Politicians are the same the world over... We build bridges where there aren't any rivers." - Nikita Kruschev

Ah. Right, see what you mean then.

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Smokebelching,CO2 making,child murdering planet raping,granny mugging,politically incorrect globally warming (or is it climate changing now it's getting colder?)thug.
That's what the government want you to believe of me. If they get back in I'm emigrating.

If only I still had my shotgun licence.

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The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not necessarily represent the views of Safe Speed.
You will be branded a threat to society by going over a speed limit where it is safe to do so, and suffer the consequences of your actions in a way criminals do not, more so than someone who is a real threat to our society.

Chavicide shouldn't be a crime...

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Science won over religion when they started installing lightning rods on churches.

Is this intelligent discussion from the pro-speed lobby? Shows how stupid you lot are if it is.

Tone, you have been proven correct, although my hopes weren't high. Shame, it would be nice to actually have a sensible debate with someone from the pro-lobby.

'Appropriately set limits' - meaning you do not support the current speed limits and want them scrapped in favour of higher ones, which will create additional danger.
'Only the nutters would travel at speeds significantly beyond that appropriate; the great majority of drivers would choose a safe speed' - again, you want the speed limit increasing with, of course, additional danger - but then again - the pro-speed lobby isn't interested in safety- only their 'right' to break the law and get away with it - it's the same with all extremists.

No, in most cases the original speed limit, which will create no extra danger, since they were reduced for politically correct and fiscal reasons. And as you rightly point out only the nutters exceed the limits, and are indeed much better able to with the presence of Gatso's rather than trafpol.

Anyway, can we expect an answer anytime soon?