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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

digging up old news




Do you think the Dream team are available for his prosicution

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

Don't forget there's an ongoing Paul Smith Vs. Med Hughes online debate....


Here

Hmmm. Actually it's jumping the gun rather. Mr Hughes has not yet been convicted. It's a bit of a cock up to assume that he's guilty.

Further Safe Speed PR issued at 18:10 this evening:

PR558: Med Hughes - Go quick.

news: for immediate release

With the news that Police Chief Med Hughes of South Yorkshire and ACPO is
accused of speeding at 90mph in a 60mph zone...

Paul Smith, founder of SafeSpeed.org.uk, said: "Do the decent thing, Mr Hughes
and resign. Go before you are found guilty. Go before you are lynched by the
press. Go before you do yet more damage to the Police / public relationship."

"Or perhaps Mr Loophole - Nick Freeman - can help you?"

"Or perhaps you will finally admit that laser speed guns make terrible mistakes?"

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Prif Gwnstabl o flaen ei well

http://news.bbc.co.uk/welsh/hi/newsid_7 ... 069422.stm

Mae un o uwch swyddogion yr heddlu ym Mhrydain yn wynebu cyhuddiad o or-yrru yng ngogledd Cymru.

Also see

Daily Mail; Anti-speeding crusading policeman to be prosecuted for... speeding
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... ge_id=1770

Google search results, which found 63 articles on this
http://news.google.co.uk/news?hl=en&pws ... &scoring=d

Which included ........... amoung others ...
http://icnorthwales.icnetwork.co.uk/new ... _page.html

http://icscotland.icnetwork.co.uk/news/ ... _page.html

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liv ... -20034016/

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-ea ... -20034017/

http://icthewharf.icnetwork.co.uk/thewh ... _page.html

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpoo ... -20034015/

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/breakin ... -20033948/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/stor ... 27,00.html

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/myfox/pages/ ... geId=3.4.1

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,, ... 03,00.html

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default ... ryId=17089
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See.

Hypocrisy can be translated into any number of languages; even Welsh

BTW, self-deprecation is easy for me. I'm Welsh!

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Simon

I have a good idea where this took place. If you look at this link:

Map Link

the scamerati tend to park their vans in a layby by Ley Farm, to nab traffic going north. The A5 crossing the Dee on a viaduct is quite wide despite being single-carriageway, and just after it crosses the river, the northbound lane splits into two as far as the A of A5 on that map. All traffic races up there, whcih is why the scamerati have twigged that their layby is a good place to park, as it's hidden just over the brow of the hill. A friend of mine was s**tting bricks that he'd got nabbed going north here a few months ago. It'll cheer him up when I tell him about this story.

If he's to appear in Wrexham magistrates' court, then it had to have happened north of the Dee, and there's nowhere else on the A5 in the Chirk area in Wales where he could safely do 90.

This is one of those occasions when justice must be done and not only that but it must be seen to be done.

This man must be removed form his job if it’s found that he exceeded the speed limit by the extent reported.

There is a very peculiar infection that is infecting persons who work for the people of the UK and who are in positions of power in the UK.

These infections symptoms are a refusal to take personal responsibility for their actions and a refusal to apologise to the public and do the honourable thing and resign.

How do the government and the police expect the public to take them seriously and expect respect when they treat the UK public with such disrespect and contempt?

My family, friends and I were discussing this subject recently and almost all of the discussion was around the fact that everyone had no more time for politicians and no respect for the police.

So if this senior police officer gets off with anything less than the normal punishment for this offence then this will only reinforce are belief that the system looks after its own and the rest of society gets shafted.

Was there another senior police officer recently who could not remember who was driving when given a speeding NIP. Gave no other defence other that can’t remember if he or was his wife and got off with it?

It's interesting that we all have assumed that he is guilty. I think this is due to the "guaranteed conviction" mentality of automated enforcement.

See how the principles of justice have been warped by this policy.

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Malcolm W.
The views expressed in this post are personal opinions and do not represent the views of Safespeed.

Serves himself right for venturing into Wales for an holiday I reckon...

Here, do you think old Blunderstorm will have his car crushed?.....

priceless..........

Hear, hear. And I'm more guilty than most of the assuming thing.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Yup, I would tend to agree with you!

I have almost fallen foul of the scamerati myself on that stretch of crawler lane, whilst headed to Chester. At that time they were parked on the overpass, and I was making haste to pass a very slow lorry during the limited crawler stretch, whilst endeavoring to stay within the law. As it was I got a snotty letter, ticking me off for apparently exceeding the limit, but below their prosecution threshold. I reported it as unsolicited mail, as I am on the mailing preference service.

Incidentally I was on a tasking recently that involved landing at Oswestry Hospital, and used the southernmost viaduct as an initial point to lead me in; you can't miss it as you fly up the Dee Valley at low level, and it even has a handy windsock on it for assessing the local wind. Hopefully I gave some of the drivers a thrill too!

Looks like he’s trying to make up for a half-arsed safety policy by being two-faced about it!

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Views expressed are personal opinions and are not necessarily shared by the Safe Speed campaign

Ah the Sweet Smell of Schadenfreude....

Regret to disagree with Paul, but so far as I am concerned, like the rest of us are treated in speeding offences, he is guilty until he proves himself innocent.

I have absolutely no sympathy for this pious hypocritical charlatan and I hope that given his position of responsibility, to set an example, he gets the most severe sentence that is possible, but we know that won't happen.
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I don't really see any disagreement there. Surely you agree that the vital principle of 'innocent until proven guilty' has been seriously undermined in the dash for cash?

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Definately a "repeat offender" M'Lud!........'E 'as an inflated sense of 'is own importance an' 'is eyes are too close together fer my likin' Sir.......

WEll Dodgy! ..... If you don't mind me sayin' so Sir!....

Safe Speed issued yet more PR on the subject at 02:09 this morning:

PR559: Something is horribly wrong...

news / news feature: for immediate release

Paul Smith, founder of SafeSpeed.org.uk, said:

"With the news that Roads Policing Chief Med Hughes is to be prosecuted for
driving at 90mph in a 60mph zone, something is obviously horribly wrong. Mr
Hughes and his predecessor Mr Brunstrom have told us repeatedly that speeding
costs lives and must be stamped out.

So perhaps Mr Hughes was out on a wild thrill ride knowingly putting his life
and the lives of the public at risk? I don't know about you, but I would find
that extremely hard to believe of a Chief Constable. I still have faith that
Chief Constables are genuinely pillars of society.

Or perhaps he was 'distracted' and didn't notice that his speed had crept up?
Again this is highly unlikely - after all he was 50% over the speed limit.
Allegedly.

So what is the truth? It's so simple and so awful that many dare not think it
or admit it. Speeding in itself isn't dangerous. Everyone knows that it's
important that no one should drive too fast, but the speed limit cannot tell us
what too fast is.

Mr Hughes was not driving 'too fast' in the sense that he was causing a danger.
He knew full well that his speed was safe and appropriate according to the
prevailing conditions at the time. Any other explanation for his behaviour is
unthinkable.

It's obvious to anyone who drives that drivers must vary their speed to suit
the prevailing conditions. We do it naturally, we do it easily and we do it
accurately. There's room for improvement of course, but attempting to deny this
essential road safety skill is not only stupid, it's actively dangerous. One
clear side effect of having a nation of drivers who slow down when hazards
threaten is that we're also a nation of drivers who speed up when conditions
are clear and safe.

It's when conditions are clear and safe that we're likely to be going fastest
and most likely to be caught speeding. But such times are also when we're least
likely to be involved in a crash. This is why Department for Transport reports
that 50% or more of drivers are speeding at sample sites on most road types yet
only 5% of crashes involve any speeding vehicle - and for drivers over 25 it's
only 2% - 1 in 50. This massive under-representation of speeding in the injury
crash stats is all the evidence we need to know that routine speeding isn't
normally dangerous.

The truth is that the speed limit is no more than a weak proxy for the desired
behaviour. But cameras have made the proxy more important than the behaviour we
wanted in the first place. The awful tragedy and the awful truth is that speed
cameras make the roads more dangerous by replacing effective policies; by
distorting priorities; by distracting drivers; by damaging the relationship
between Police and public and by giving us false safety messages about speed.

I'm quite certain that Mr Hughes was driving safely. Now he needs to admit the
truth, scrap the cameras which have caused all the trouble and get road safety
back on track.

No more lies Mr. Hughes. Only the truth can give us safer roads. Stop
pretending that the speed limit gives a safety limit irrespective of
conditions. Clearly you know it isn't true, or you wouldn't have been driving
at 50% over the limit. Allegedly."

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This can be sliced up and used as PR, or used directly as a news feature. We'll see what the editors make of it. If anything.

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Paul Smith
Our scrap speed cameras petition got over 28,000 sigs
The Safe Speed campaign demands a return to intelligent road safety

Ah! No! No! Sir You're quite wrong there Sir!..... Y'see that's the common misconception these days that is Sir! No use tryin' to defend 'im there Sir.....

He's a "Crim" 'e is!...... Plain an simple! Seen 'em for years I 'ave.

Child Killer 'e is!..........

If I 'ad my way I'd 'ang 'im!...........then I'd crush 'is car I would.

Nah' messin'.


Yours Faithfully, Mr Blunderstorm. N.Wales.

Paul, You couldn't possibly comment ... of course.