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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 13:03 
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http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1713342007

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WHITE dividing lines will be removed from roads in dozens of Scottish towns and villages, under plans to improve pedestrian safety.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 13:52 
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Well since it's not April 1st , can only assume that Aberdeen are living up to their title of the "Mean yins"

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Well, it might work in residential areas - with the caveats outlined in the news article - but they should be very careful with this one. I can see the "Mad Mullah" element of anti-motorist councils taking this to dangerous extremes.

A better move towards safety would be removing a large proportion of the confusing forest of roadsigns presently cluttering up our towns and villages.

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It might have an unpleasant side-effect though!

A couple of years ago, I was hit by anothr car on one of the small rural roads round here. Like most of them, there were no white lines down the middle. I had photos of the crash site and in any case the other party admited fault and his insurers coughed-up.

That said, MY insurers were quite relieved at his admission because (they said) in instances where there are no white lines it very often turns into a "knock-for-knock" settlement - regardless of who is to blame!

If that's true, it would be interesting to see what insurers start doing when people DO have an accident!


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In July I read that; WHITE LINES 'CUT MORE ACCIDENTS THAN CAMERAS' , Link

Daily Telegraph, 02 July 2007

It was reported somwhere on SafeSpeed.

It would seem to me that the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing and road safety policies have been reduced to a sham.

No doubt they would rather keep the speed cameras, since they provide money, while white lines cost money.
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more likely they are chucking out new ideas to justify their own jobs. the ideas themselves mean nothing. they are merely thought up for the sake of it

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Hasn't this one come up before, with it working well in other countries? I'm sure I've heard Paul talking about the "shared spaces" concept.

I think it could work, but only in low-speed environments like town centres.

It would allow you to use a little bit more room to overtake a cyclist, where currently you don't want to cross the centre line, and the cyclist is in his own lane which is 2' wide so therefore it's safe to pass him with a gap of six inches since you're in your lane and he's in his.

It would be disastrous on NSL single carriageways. The last thing I want is someone who hasn't seen me deciding to take up a little extra space while they overtake a cyclist at 60 whilst heading towards me, in this situation the white line makes them think "is it really a good idea to be crossing this, perhaps I should check what's coming first?" and then not overtake the cyclist until the oncoming car they've finally noticed has passed.


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