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I may as well swap my car for a horse, or maybe get a man with a flag to walk in front of my car. How's that for a tip on improving road safety?

Obviously someone with his own web design company lives in Stanley Hill.

Does anyone know this road and can comment on the appropriateness of the 30mph limit?

What are you so scared of?

I know it well. I've lived in the area for about a year now

and it gets worse...

http://www.stanleyhill.org

There a total of 8 posts, 5 of these from the site owner.
It has been over a month since the last post.

Perhaps there would have been more activity if he had let people register

I've just found this site and thought that I would add my 'twopen'orth' for what it's worth.
Now, I passed my driving test in 1960 and have since driven over 25000 miles per annum until my retirement a few years ago. I have two separate maximum and protected no-claims discounts and I have had but one accident, in 1973.
What I now begin to wonder is whether we are becoming somewhat obsessed with the numerical speed in given areas rather than the way to actually improve road safety, which is a much wider issue.
It seems, from what I've learned, that between 4% and 5% of all serious accidents involve vehicles being driven in excess of the posted speed limit. These are official figures from the gov't's own research centre. It does not actually say that these accidents were definately caused by the vehicles being driven over the limit, merely that the accidents involved such vehicles.
Thus, logically, any emphasis or actions taken to enforce any speed limit will present an opportunity to address, at best, just 5% of accident causation.
So, what are the main causes of accidents? It seems that failure to concentrate, anticipate and have full control of one's vehicle are the main causes defined by the police.
What we should be doing, therefore, is to major on correcting this behavior, rather than continually 'banging-on' about 'speeding' which, in itself, is a really minor issue in road safety. It seems that many regard all driving at inappropriate speed as the same as breaking the posted speed limit, which, of course, it is not. No-one would advocate a 'free-for-all' in terms of driver behavior and speed limits are really necessary. However, to make to absolute observance of such limits the cornerstone of road safety is extremely naive in view of the true statistics.
To improve road safety we MUST address the other 95% of causation by aggressive methods. Let's really attack those who lack the aptitude for driving at all, those who drink and drive, those who don't concentrate and fail to 'look where they are going', those who drive whilst under the influence of drugs, those who drive dangerous vehicles, those who use the mobile phone whilst driving, badly loaded and/or badly driven HGV's. Basically let's address all forms of 'bad driving'.
Signing a pledge to stay under a speed limit at all times is going to solve nothing whatsoever. I can say now that I could not honestly sign such a pledge and, I suspect, anyone who does sign it is either a hypocrite or an inexperienced driver.
So, how can we address the real road safety issues?

Guffaw.


It's only derogatory if untrue, I'd be interested to hear why it's inflammatory to quote the posters here words back at them.

Go to the search facility on Safespeed and search on "nazis" or "stasi". It's Godwin's Rule- whosoever invokes the nazis in their argument invalidates their point. Moreover, those of you who claim road safety exhortations are on a par with nazism need to be dragged by the hair to the gates of Auschwitz to see what nazism really meant to people.

Ponder the case of a speeding driver who knocked down and killed a young woman. Safespeed's reaction? To allow a thread to remain that claimed coverage of her death was "misleading" and she was probably drunk.

Can you think of another "road safety group" that calls the police kunts?:

Can you think of another road safety group that allows fake coppers to post garbage all over the place?

Don't ask questions, just follow the ponytailed geek's wisdom, dissent banned awkward questions (like what his qualifications are) are censored. Critics deleted. Obey. Do not question.


What are you so scared of?

no it was not worth twopence even in old money.

no it was not worth twopence even in old money.

With my pedantic hat on, don't you mean toe the party line, unless you're thinking of taking it somewhere?

Not wishing to go off the subject but these people seem to want us to go full circle: -

Man struggles along at a snails pace

Man invents the car to speed up the process

Man then does everything he can to halt the process

Man goes back to snails pace, only now we're doing it in a box burning fossil fuels and it costs us a fortune for the privilege.

And they call it progress

I may as well swap my car for a horse, or maybe get a man with a flag to walk in front of my car. How's that for a tip on improving road safety?

no it was not worth twopence even in old money.

Timed-out on your medication, chief?

FFS.