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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 08:25 
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Likely to be provoking, I know, but is anyone else fed up with all the Diana non-news in the papers. Whether Camilla goes to a memorial service or not is irrelevant and uninteresting to me.

Oh well, it takes all sorts, I suppose.

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Yes - it was overdone when it happened ten years ago, even more so now.

I imagine given the widespread "grumpy old man" sentiment on here that might be quite a common view :twisted:

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Phew, I thought this was going to be a thread about how great she was :roll:

Yes, it was tragic but it was 10 effing years ago! :x

(And you don't have to be an old man to be grumpy Peter!)

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You would think that after 10 years, they could get her title right!! :(

She was not born royal and therefore was not and could not have been Princess Diana. She was Diana, Princess of Wales


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10 years ago the nation had a fit of collective hysteria.

Like your dad when he over did it in the office party of 1972 I thought as a nation we'd have filed it in the 'never talk about it' bin.

were those few days in 1997 the most embarassing in our history?


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I was working in California when the news broke at about mid-day. I remember wondering whether I should phone my sister back in England but it was about 3 a.m in the morning, which I didn't think she would appreciate.

It may have been big news in England but I can tell you it bordered on complete madness in America; like Elvis dying again.

I eventually got so sick of it I felt like becoming a monk just to get away from hearing about her. It seemed like everyone was in a frenzy; like piranha with a fresh kill.

Don't get me wrong, I was sorry to hear about her death but the media and peoples reaction was completely OTT.

What bugged me most was that Mother Teresa, (who for over forty years ministered to the needs of the poor, sick, orphaned and dying), herself died in relative obscurity by comparison!

Everyone likes a pretty philanthropist with a fancy title I guess. :roll:

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Likely to be provoking, I know, but is anyone else fed up with all the Diana non-news in the papers. Whether Camilla goes to a memorial service or not is irrelevant and uninteresting to me.

Oh well, it takes all sorts, I suppose.


Yep it’s a case of the media creating a story that has no interest from the “real” public whatsoever.

When wil the press wake up to what the public are actually concerned about........ok may be never!

The whole Diana thing was media fuelled celebrity style grief. And it just keeps on popping up from time to time.

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Phew, I thought this was going to be a thread about how great she was :roll:

Sixy, I am upset now. Didn't the fact I started this thread give you a clue? :lol:

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malcolmw wrote:
Sixy_the_red wrote:
Phew, I thought this was going to be a thread about how great she was :roll:

Sixy, I am upset now. Didn't the fact I started this thread give you a clue? :lol:


I'm sorry :oops: :lol:

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(And you don't have to be an old man to be grumpy Peter!)

I know - that's why I put it in inverted commas.

I've come across GoMs who haven't turned 18 yet ;)

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Bring back Spitting Image

Drop the Dead Donkey would do it justice too

OK - so the GoM tage is true...


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At the risk of being really cynical, I think that the whole "Wasn't Di lovely/peoples princess etc, etc" is far to good a gravy train for the vested interests to let it die.

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On the BBC News Have Your Say, some people were actually claiming that Charles and Camilla killed her: the logic being if Charles and Diana hadn't divorced, she wouldn't have been in Paris with another man. :roll:

Once you look past the issue of personal attractiveness, Charles, Diana, and Camilla probably do/did about equal amounts for charities.


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I never understood what all the fuss was about. She was an average-looking girl who married into royalty with all that involves.
She got into a car with an unknown driver, didn't do her seat-belt up and, unfortunately, paid the ultimate price when there was a crash. Sad, but shit happens. The amazing thing was the outpouring of emotion, real or imagined, from the British people who have always been known for their reserve. And let's not be swayed by the 'do-gooding' of 'her nibs'. Of course she 'worked' with all those charities, what else did she have to do? She could hardly get a job on the checkout at Tesco and she needed to be seen to be doing some sort of job after she left the royal family.


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Once you look past the issue of personal attractiveness, Charles, Diana, and Camilla probably do/did about equal amounts for charities.


Maybe we all would if we didn't have to work 40+ hours a week for 50 years of our lives to scrape a living.

To risk getting flamed she was a poor little rich kid who dabbled in royalty but couldn't hack it, dabbled in charities out of sheer self indulgence and self pity, screwed around with a few millionaires then ended up in a car wreck.

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At the risk of being really cynical, I think that the whole "Wasn't Di lovely/peoples princess etc, etc" is far to good a gravy train for the vested interests to let it die.


So, so true. My family have re-titled the Daily Express the 'Daily Diana' as barely an issue has been published in those 10 years that they haven't had a picture of her in it. At least twice a week she's on the front page.


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To risk getting flamed she was a poor little rich kid who dabbled in royalty but couldn't hack it, dabbled in charities out of sheer self indulgence and self pity, screwed around with a few millionaires then ended up in a car wreck.

:yesyes:

You're more likely to get patted on the back than flamed here for saying that :D

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The biggest thing I never understood was why no-one in the media ever apparently picked up on the seat belt thing. Given all the hysteria and publicity surrounding the incident, you couldn't have had a stronger, more positive road safety message than "If she'd worn her seat belt she'd have lived".

Has anyone on here seen the recent film "The Queen"? Wife rented it the other week. Words failed me. Never have I felt so moved towards throwing things at the screen!

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Yeah, I watched it the other day. It seemed to be trying to "put the record straight" on the Queen's behalf. I think she probably thought as we all seem to - that, sad thought it obviously was, it had been whipped up out of all proportion.

The seat belt thing struck me too at the time (I was working on a seat belt anchorage test rig at the time)! In fairnes though, we can't be certain she'd have survived but it was interesting that the front seat passenger did. I agree that it would be one, last positive thing she could do for the nation but maybe using it as a seta belt add would be a bit beyond bad taste!


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I don't believe that by accident of birth you are, or should be, something more special than anyone else.

I extend this not just to royalty but any rich and famous spoilt brats who inherit wealth and a higher social status.

I see prettier girls than Diana walking down my street. I meet more intelligent women than her who have just as much compassion but they don't get anything like the reward or adulation Diana received.

It's laudable that someone in a position of power tries to help others who are less fortunate but to canonise her, (there's a word I haven't heard for ten years), like has happened makes me feel sick. :puke:

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