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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:38 
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I have just recieved a notice of intended prosectution for doing 39mph in a 30mph restricted zone.It doesn't appear to have a bit on it to allow me to pay a fine and accept 3 points.Does this mean there is a chance that I may get more then 3 points?I hold my hands up and think I probably did do that speed.It was on a saturday afternoon on four lane road.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 13:31 
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39 in a 30 is almost always 3 points / 60 pounds.

But 3 points is 25% of your driving licence, and you may pay extra on your motor insurance for 5 years.

I'd recommend fighting EVERY ticket for the following reasons:

a) If it goes to court, the greedy camera partnership don't get the money.
b) It's far better to fight the first ticket than wait until you are facing a ban.
c) The system is wrong and needs to be put under as much strain as possible.

The best fighting respouces are on http://www.pepipoo.com . Get over there and prepare for battle.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 13:55 
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any idea what kind of fine i may realistically recieve?Also,I'm not sure on what grounds I could fight the nip as I concede I was driving that speed.What are the get outs?


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apologies,you've already stated likely fine.still unsure what grounds i could appeal on though if i'm probably guilty?


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sorry,one other querey.The car is registered in my wife's name but I am a co driver.The NIP has asked her to send back the form stating who was the driver.Does that mean that a ticket may be sent out to me once this has been extablished thereby meaning I can pay this and accept the points and avoid a court hearing?


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nicemrkelly wrote:
apologies,you've already stated likely fine.still unsure what grounds i could appeal on though if i'm probably guilty?


You are threatened with a technical violation. But that "cuts both ways". They have to stick to hundreds of technical regulations too.

So you question their procedures and their evidence. You might hope that they run out of time.

Time is the first place to start. You mentioned the nip is addressed to your wife. She has 28 days to reply. Take 27 days. Then she might reply to the NIP or write a letter, perhaps asking for the photo. Then she might get a NIP reminder and reply to that. If you can string it out for six months from the date of offence they run out of time and you can't be nicked.

But like I said, get over to Pepipoo.

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would I risk incurring a bigger fine and more points by hanging out the case and asking for photos to be produced etc?


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Not provided you don't take things too far. Go right up to the boudary, but don't overstep it (at least not too far :twisted: )

Go read PEPIPOO

The starting point for you is http://www.pepipoo.com/NewForums2/viewtopic.php?t=2906


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Just to add my 2p's worth as Plod.......

Sorry to hear you're likely to lose a quarter of your license for being just 9mph over the limit on a dual carriageway. Crazy! :evil:

I don't know how you drive but the fact that you're here would suggest that you're interested in road safety and safer driving. Best of luck to you....


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nicemrkelly wrote:
would I risk incurring a bigger fine and more points by hanging out the case and asking for photos to be produced etc?


Best to read Pepipoo mate .. but probably they will penalise the 3 points for this. Probably fine will remain at the £60 level , but then you will have court costs on top.

But ... Pepipoo are best people to know this for certain.

Agree with "The Man" here ... crazy to be prosecuted for low level blips like this..


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