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speed freak take it tounge in cheek



ok i will humour you, over the time i worked the vans i encountered many people ( including the member here who stopped for a chat, a nose around
a few questions on operating procedures, i worked out they were SS fans as soon as they mentioned RTTM, i have narrowed it down to possibly 3 individuals), many would ask things about articles in the paper, express their views pro / anti, i would state the reality, i have even given public a go on the camera (after the session has ended of course)

as i have said many times IMO only a few people who post here have actualy seen inside a van spoken to the operator,

back to the question

in the van - you would get the regular chav give the finger / beep the horn shout a name
outside the van set up on a tripod - same chav drives by, make eye contact with them, nothing

the driver who with his mates yells abuse as he goes by, meet him a few minutes later on the fore court of a filling station, on his own the mates in the car, as silent as a lamb

ok a van is an easy target / the individual face to face is different
posting on a web forum is one thing

that is the individual who i class as spineless and gutless

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And that is the one of the problems! Traffic cops pull you over, give you a lecture, possibly combined with a fine. Your vehicle is checked for road worthiness, your personal road worthiness is checked.

Most sensible drivers will go away thinking "I will be more careful in future".

After passing a van, most people go past thinking......
Well something unsuitable for a family forum!

I am one of the lucky ones by the way, I have been on a ride along with the traffic police on patrol. I make a point of stopping at all camera sites (doubt it was me you spoke to btw), and speaking to the operators. And have undergone several driver training courses (all voluntary, not the punative kind).

I have to say that for the most part the vans appear to be operated by complete thugs, the majority answer my polite requests with a vocabulary mainly containing 4 letters.

And final note, at last operator is back making sensible comments, I was becoming disheartened I have to confess.

Odin, that's odious

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Me being one. I dont think they actually like me very much though. The one shouted at me to get out of the way, despite me being stood on a public grass verge.....I guess they take offence at my camera when i take their pictures, at least now they get to feel how we all do.




So not at all like the spineless, gutless, coward who hides in the back of a non descript van robbing £60 a pop from motorists just driving safely past then?

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that was very brave of you



robbing £60 a pop from motorists just driving safely past, will someone explain to this peabrain that the motorists who drive safely past are not targeted at all, it is the ones who are driving over the posted limit by at least 20% are

the offence is driving at excess speed

next one please

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Yes, i thought so too.




Driving safely past in excess of the posted speed limit. So what?
Thats the point youre missing.
Theyre still driving safely.
Speed cameras are all about safety, arent they?
Theyre not about £60 a pop- surely?
Tell me it isnt so.
If theyre driving safely then theres no need to "fine" anyone, because the stated aim is for "safety".
So, if theyre driving safely it negates the need for you to be raping their wallets.
It just gets peoples backs up and then they begin to hate you, or dosent your intellectual capacity stretch outside of "the law is the law" to such parameters as decency, fairplay and whats morally right?

Oh btw, ive never been done for speeding or anything else so my interest is purely from an ethical and safety point of view, and what you lot do isnt ethical, it isnt desired, it isnt necessary and its got sweet f/a to do with safety. So while you lot keep scamming ill keep biting.

You can run but you cant bloody hide.

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been there done it

next one please

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Im constantly unsurprised at the levels of presumptious arrogance displayed by those who do this non job.
Such dismissive behaviour indicates the calibre of the "people" that comprise the scp's at all levels.

Just one request scamera operator, please try to post messages with at least a semblance of syntax and grammar, it makes you harder to understand otherwise.

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Purely out of interest -

How many vehicles that you have caught speeding have you seen have an accident within visual range of your van?

in 4 years i only saw one accident whislt at scene, and this was a chav too busy trying to stare me out that he did not see the vehicle in front stop, ouch

i know where you are going on this question, but you need to bear in mind that the community concern sites now outweigh the core sites by about 4 / 1, and for community concern sites you do not need accident data

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Ahh the latest buzz term! "Community concern sites".

Another bogus reason to be out there. Cant get enough dollaros at your "core " sites so must expand the scam to cover the falloff in revenues. You must be VERY proud to be making no difference to fatals.
Still, as long as the cash keeps rolling in eh?.......

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I have a film in my possession where the stats at the end of the film tell a different story. 80 percent were below the prosicution threashold

cars were targeted who were doing 8,18,24, 26, 29,30, 26 people were targeted for 31mph

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

are you saying that only vehicles over the prosecution threshold should be targetted,

pretty evenly spread figures the only rogue ones log 108 18 mph and log 213 15 mph, i take it the o's are distance checks carried out through out the enforcement,

what about the time sequence !!!

you want an old one of mine

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Still having an issue with syntax and grammar i see, never mind.

I cant speak for anyone else, but i cant see the point of what you do.
Plainly prosecution of large numbers of motorists simply for driving over a prescribed limit isnt reducing the numbers who continue to do so.
If the strategy isnt working then whats the point to it? You need to be doing something different. You wouldnt take aspirin for a tumour because itd have no effect.
The question arises, Just what the hell IS this policy about? Cos its sure not working vis a vis reducing numbers of "speeders"!
Guess what scamera operator- what youre doing is worthless in the sense of reducing casualties because most casualties dont come about due to the causation factor youre so zealously chasing down.
Now whos the pea brain?

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put the "vees" up at it as I would!

Oy, you lot...

I know it started out in gentle humour, but please don't overdo it. The last thing we want to do is drive CamOp underground. He helps us out by answering quesdtions usefully to the best of his ability consistent with not breaching his sworn privacy. Come out and touch gloves and call it a score draw ok?

Thanks for the answer.

I am not saying only people over the prosicution threshold should be targeted. you were saying that you only targeted people at +20%.....ie over 36mph well 80% of the Lad's and lasses that this person zapped were below that number and he may not have been forming a prior opinion, and using the machine to confirm his view. (as I believe is required by the rta 1988)

In this mode of use the machine becomes the only opinion.

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Speed limit sign radio interview. TV Snap Unhappy
“It has never been the rule in this country – I hope it never will be - that suspected criminal offences must automatically be the subject of prosecution” He added that there should be a prosecution: “wherever it appears that the offence or the circumstances of its commission is or are of such a character that a prosecution in respect thereof is required in the public interest”
This approach has been endorsed by Attorney General ever since 1951. CPS Code

who has the away goal ,

i think having a partnership symbol next to my name is like a red rag to a bull, even now several months after i moved from the SCP my views are treated as SCP views, which was never my intention

i think anything i have said is available in the public domain how it is interpreted is another thing, all l i have done is put a different angle onto the debates from the point of view of not only an operator, but a bog standard driver as well

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and so i did, i forgot every word is analysed

there should have been are targeted and prosecuted at the end

from your example of 80% being under the prosecution level of 36mph, without working it out i would estimate that 70 % are between the 30mph and 36mph,

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