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 Post subject: more lies
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 17:20 
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From here

http://www.safetycameraswestyorkshire.co.uk/pressr.asp

**Dear Robert,

It’s not a question of “attitude”, it’s a question of trying to find the most effective measure for reducing the most number of deaths and injuries on local roads.

Back in the late 90s, as the precursor for the launch of the first 8 pilot camera schemes, a great deal of research was done by Transport Research Laboratories (TRL), academic institutions and independent consultants. Their conclusions were that speed-related factors were the principal contributory factor in about a third of all crashes – the single biggest cause of crashes. Subsequent research programmes supported this finding, the most recent national programme having been conducted just a year ago by University College London.

Further local and specific research must be carried out by the partnership in support of every application for installation of cameras. Cameras can only be installed at locations where it can be demonstrated that crashes and casualties have been/are being caused by drivers travelling at excess or inappropriate speeds. Further, it must be shown that other measures such as engineering have been employed but have failed significantly to reduce the numbers and severity of crashes and casualties.

After cameras are installed, locations continue to be monitored to ensure they are having positive impact on vehicle speeds and casualty numbers and severity of injuries.

All our evidence and experience points to a simple formula:

Higher speeds = more serious crashes = high number of casualties = more severe injuries death

Cameras = drivers discouraged from higher speeds

Lower speeds = fewer crashes = less serious crashes = fewer (and less serious) injuries

for anyone in west yorkshire you might want to ask:

Which TRL report concluded that 1/3rd of accidents are speed related?
where is the proof that lower speeds = few crashes.

Particularly given that there are 743 camera locations where accidents INCREASED following the introduction of cameras.

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http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/d ... 29198.hcsp


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 Post subject: Re: more lies
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 18:05 
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diy wrote:
Lower speeds = fewer crashes = less serious crashes = fewer (and less serious) injuries


Shame it is not true. In leicester the average road speed has been comming down ove the part two years and yet deaths have gone up...go figure!

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These Pratnerships just regurgitate the same old bollocks, and are getting away with it scot free!

The Yorkshire site is so full of the same old crap, its sickening :(


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 17:28 
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Warwickshire likewise--

try this bit of info from this link

http://www.tamworthherald.co.uk/display ... K=12647252
Most disturbing of all
is the fact that fatalities (down two to 49) remain at an identical level to when Camera Partnerships were formed in 2001.


Choice quote " In other words, placing a yellow garden gnome on a stick at the roadside would achieve a similar 'benefit illusion' to Warwickshire's claimed 50 per cent reduction"


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